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I extracted this information from Marty and Charlie Mullendore of Antietam Classic Cycle on the Yahoo! Loopframe_Guzzi news group.
I called Bob's BMW last Saturday morning and ordered-up the BMW fork lock, and it is the same Niemann part, complete with a pair of keys. There are 2 small differences to the Guzzi part; 1) the Guzzi part has a spring around the lock pin, which the new part doesn't, so just swap it over, and 2) the Guzzi lock is ground flat on both sides of the business end of the pin so the end of the pin is about 7 mm wide, but the BMW part is a straight cylinder. I realize now that this relief is so the pin can engage the keyway that's ground in the steering tube, doing the locking, so there's a little grinding to do.
BMW part numbers and prices are as follows (Marty ordered these parts from Bob's BMW; Bench Mark Works also sells them):
- Lock and 2 keys: p/n 51 25 1 243 274
- Fork cover rivet: p/n 07 11 9 944 651
- Spring washer for the rivet: p/n 07 11 9 932 100
- Chrome cover with rivet and washer: p/n 32 32 9 016 101
I extracted this information from Mark Etheridge of Moto Guzzi Classics off of the Yahoo! Loopframe_Guzzi news group. In Mark's own words...
Have seen quite a few like this. I clean the inside out real good with carb cleaner, then high pressure blow it. Then I get heat gun and get collar real warm, then with a popscikle stick I put jb weld down there. The heat helps it kind of flow a lot better. Never had one leak or spin after doing this.
Two identical fork seals are used on the forks - one per fork tube (35 mm ID x 50 mm OD x 10 mm thick).
Thanks to Charles Hamer for sending me this information. In (mostly) Charles' own words...
I got some info concerning o-rings for the fork top plugs. It took me some time trying out a bunch of different sizes before finding a nice fit, the OEM o-ring comes straight from Italy but IMO does not provide a nice fit. It is almost unecessary because it is so sloppy. For some reason it might have been intended by Guzzi engineers, but to me it does not make sense. So I found some good alternative o-rings in metric sizes, they can be found at Advance Auto Parts or McMaster Carr.
Here is Joe Jump's bolt-on steering damper kit which he sells for USD $125.00. In Joe's own words:
It really is a nice working damper set-up. I used to experience a low frequency "wallow" at speeds above 65 MPH (bags and a Harley-type windshield) - now that's gone. The damper is a hydraulic unit with seven adjustment positions from off to very stiff - a quality built Japanese unit. As you can see from the "mounted" picture, I've oriented the unit across the centerline of the frame so that the adjustment easily accomplished underway with a gloved left hand. In my case I've set it two clicks up from off and leave it there - don't even notice it in town.
If you are interested, contact Joe directly at: jumpjg>at<hotmail.com
Thanks to Frank Granli who sent this information to me in a private communication. In Franks's own words:
I also have installed a police fairing, leg shields and a Joe Jump steering damper and all of this goes together well. You will see from the pictures that only a single nut on each bolt was necessary to give room for the Joe Jump crash bar clamp.
Joe Jump gave me the inspiration to do this based upon the experiences he shared on the Yahoo! Loopframe_Guzzi news group.
Steering dampers can be quite expensive...and finding the original Guzzi mounting brackets can be difficult. So, I used the following materials:

A view of the entire set-up installed.

The bracket welded to the split collar.

The bracket welded to the split collar.

The bracket welded to the split collar.

This is how I secured the steering damper to the aluminum spacer block. Not stock...but works great.

A stainless steel nylon lock nut and flat washer secures the whole mess to the lower triple tree.

View from front...the bottom of the stock fairing extends lower than the bolt head. This is GOOD!

A good look at how I relieved a portion of the right turn signal bracket to clear the body of the steering damper.

The pair of stainless steel civilian turn signal brackets that I created.

The pair of stainless steel civilian turn signal brackets that I created.
I met Kim Schick at the 2006 MGNOC national rally in Elkader, Iowa. We got to talking about steering dampers and I learned that Kim had cast a number of the special aluminum blocks for mounting the steering damper to the underside of the triple tree. First class work and Kim hooked me up with one (Thanks!).
After examining numerous loops using the stock steering damper set up, Kim and I found that most (all?) had some sort of fender dent from the head of the bolt contacting the top of the fender on full fork spring compression. It seems that even the stock configuration did not fully account for the issue of full spring compression. After further investigation, Kim found that the pocket recess in the lower triple tree for the aluminum spacer block is different between different models. Specifically, he found the following differences:
After further contemplation, I decided to calculate the minimum space needed between the bottom of the lower triple tree and the top of the fender (thanks to Paul Linn for taking the time to measure the maximum fork travel on a set of uninstalled drum brake forks he had). Here is the math and logic I used...
The key point from all this math and logic is that there needs to be a minimum of 4.5" between the bottom of the triple tree and the top of the corresponding point on the fender. If there isn't, then there is a very real risk of denting the front fender.
It is easy to check your machine. Jack up the front end so that the front wheel is off the ground. This extends the front fork completely. Then, just measure between the triple tree and the fender. I checked mine and my steering damper bolt was about 4" from the fender...hence my dent.
The bottom line is that there are steps that must be taken any time a steering damper is added in order to avoid dents in the top of your fender. Here are a few suggestions:
Thanks to Bob Greene for providing key starting information for these cross-references.
The physical dimensions of the tapered roller bearings (MG# 92249225) are as follows:
Here are various cross-references:
After installing the stock fairing, I noticed that when I turned the handlebar fully left or fully right, that the fairing would hit the tank - not good. This is not an issue while riding, but becomes annoying when maneuvering the bike around the garage, parking, etc.
I had initially thought about performing some surgery on the fairing, but I'm glad I didn't. Instead, I drilled and tapped the solid round bar welded to the front of the frame that serves to limit the steering travel side to side. A 13/64" drill and a 6 mm x 1 mm tap did the job just fine. A 6 mm x 1 mm x 8 mm bolt screwed in all the way works perfect.