Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive

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An oddity | Ian Adkins

Re: An oddity | Tim Crump

Re: An oddity | Frank Flood

Re: An oddity | Robert Hawkes

RE: An oddity | murp-@aol.com

Re: An oddity | Robert Hawkes

Re: An oddity | mike skaggs

Re: An oddity | Jay Williams

Re: An oddity | Juha Vattulainen

RE: An oddity | Peter Scheer

Re: An oddity | Patrick Hayes

RE: An oddity | Rich Zink

Re: An oddity | Robert Hawkes

Re: An oddity | Patrick Hayes

Re: An oddity | Robert Hawkes

Re: An oddity | Patrick Hayes

Re: An oddity | Robert Hawkes

RE: An oddity | Rich Zink

Re: An oddity | Robert Hawkes

Re: An oddity | Hunter Jones

Re: An oddity | Tom Epperson

Re: An oddity | Ian Adkins

Re: An oddity | Richard Clegg

RE: An oddity | Frank Flood

Re: An oddity | Guzzi-@aol.com

Re: An oddity | Robert Hawkes

Re: An oddity | Patrick Hayes

Re: An oddity | Guzzi-@aol.com

RE: An oddity | murp-@aol.com

Re: An oddity | Ian Adkins

Re: An oddity | David Otis

Re: An oddity | Leonard Berkley

Re: An oddity | Robert Hawkes

Re: An oddity | Zerhackermann .

Re: An oddity | Robert Hawkes

Re: An oddity | Chris Berry

Re: An oddity | Zerhackermann .

Re: An oddity | Robert Hawkes

Re: An oddity | guzzi john

Re: An oddity | Robert Hawkes

Re: An oddity | Ian Adkins

Re: An oddity | Robert Hawkes

Re: An oddity | Zerhackermann .

Re: An oddity | Robert Hawkes

Subject: Re: An oddity	Date: Apr 19, 2001, 6:27 AM
Author: mike skaggs	Post ID: 1706378467

Sounds like the float is not shutting off fuel to me...have you tried
another carb on that side?

Mike
www.classicguzzi.com
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From: Robert Hawkes <haw-@frontiernet.net>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 6:16 AM
Subject: Re: An oddity

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Brian,

Thanks for your response; I sort of get it. Let me tell you a few more
things about this Ambo of mine.

When I bought this bike, over a year ago, it did not run right. The

dealer

installed a new battery and changed the generator which did nothing.
Electrics are all Marelli. All along I thought a piston kit was needed

as,

upon inspection, there was evidence of chrome flaking off the cylinders.
So, I installed a new Nikasil piston kit, new gaskets, lapped the valves

and

seats, measured the valve guides and valve stems within tolerances,

torqued

the heads two times for break-in period, adjusted the valves two times,
replaced spark plug wires and coil wire and checked for proper ohm
resistance, replaced return springs on automatic spark advance using 8 and

coil springs, replaced distributor cap, cleaned the cap, rotor and points,
new points and condenser and I have put more new spark plugs on the
starboard side cylinder than I can count. Also cleaned battery terminals
and leads to regulator. (Even new header pipe gaskets.)

When I start the bike with a new plug she will run OK for about 10 mi.

Then

when I slow down or stop at a red light the starboard cylinder begin to

fail

and then will quit. I give it the gas a bit and she starts to fire again
and then fails. I pull the plug and always find evidence of fouling; the
plug is wet, dripping wet with gasoline. Sometimes gas will drip out the
starboard header where it joins the muffler. When both cylinders are

firing

the bike has plenty of power and (like the rest of you guys) the bike is a
joy to ride but it is always short lived. Please keep in mind that

despite

all the changes mentioned above it is always the starboard cylinder that
quits.

I am very grateful for all the help from you guys on this list esp. Ian,
Andy, Peter, Rich and Mark and now from you Brian but I am now becoming
desperate, therefore:

IF ANYONE ON THIS LIST PROVIDES ME WITH INFORMATION LEADING TO THE ARREST
AND CONVICTION OF THE GREMLIN THAT IS CAUSING THIS PROBLEM AND RESULTS IN

AMBASSADOR RUNNING CONTINUOUSLY ON TWO CYLINDERS I WILL SEND THEM A CASE

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Thanks, Bob Hawkes

----- Original Message -----
From: <murp-@aol.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:25 PM
Subject: RE: An oddity

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Robert,
I also think that the current is finding a path through the
distributor cap from the center connector (the coil output) to the spark
plug wires. I would bet that both plugs are sparking at the same time,
but only the one at TDC fires. The motor runs, but probably not that
well. I don't think it is really necessary to find the short through the
cap (which could be just a little moisture or dirt). It is not necessary
because when the rotor is in the distributor, a path through the cap
will not be used because there is a low resistance path through the
rotor. Also, only one cylinder will fire at a time because there will
only be one low resistance path at a time.
Brian,
'74 Eldo
'78 T3

Robert Hawkes wrote:

Frank,
That's my Ambassador that Ian is talking about. It ran without the
distributor cap being on the distributor. Now, how does one check for

short? Thanks, Bob Hawkes, 1969 MG Ambassador

----- Original Message -----
From: Frank Flood
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: An oddity

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Back

when I used to work on 2 cylinder John Deere tractors, we use a jumper
wire to make

them run without the distributor cap being in place.

Almost sounds to me like a shot circut to me.

Frank " I read the postings daily" I have learned a lot.
Thanks

Recent owner of 1972 Ambo----- Restoration in Progress

>From: Ian Adkins
>Reply-To: Loopfram-@topica.com
>To: Loopframe
>Subject: An oddity
>Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:47:23 -0400
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>Hi All,
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>I've been helping a friend with his Ambo project and he came across

>interesting situation that I thought I might seek some input from

the

>list.
>
>While working on his bike he pulled the distributor cap from its

mount

>and
>rested it aside. It was still attached to the spark plug leads and

the

>leads
>were connected to the plugs. As he turned over the bike it started
>running.
>
>What might cause this to occur? Interesting to note is that he has

been

>having trouble with the engine where one cylinder will not fire. We

were

>
>thinking that it may be carburetor related but now that I heard of

this

>anomaly I think that his problems might be ignition related.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Regards....Ian
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