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Subject: Re: Eldo decals/paint ?

Author: R.P. Mahnke

Date: Jul 3, 2000, 1:59 PM

Post ID: 1701236954



 Hi Ken,

I ordered my decals (white) for my Ambo#2 from Eish and I believe that
they
 were original transfers...I could be wrong though. I also ordered a set
(gold) for my #1 Ambo from Harper's and they look original but I'm not
sure
 if those ones were original. They look good on the bike though. One
thing.....the originals (from Eish) were a pain to work with...at least
that
 is what my painter said.

Both sets look good once clear coated over.

While we are on the topic. The transfers that I got from Eish were white
(as
 I already said) but there was a little blue in the decal. I'm not sure if
that was original or not...I don't really care because it looks so cool
but
 I was wondering if someone might tell me whether that was original or not?

One other thing...I believe that there are two types of transfers....those
that are clearcoated over and those that stick on after you have finished
the painting. The latter ones are thicker.

Ian

Gold-Not original

White with the blue shading/drop shadow-Original, supposedly NLA if in fact
decals. V700s and early ambassadors had decals. Same as Stornello but
larger. Later bikes were silk screened.

Might be wrong, but the way I always refer to transfers/decals/stickers are
that transfers use 2 sheets of paper or whatever you want to call it. You
peel off the backing, apply it where you want it, rub the front paper, and
then peel it off leaving the transfer.

Decals have only a backing sheet, and you use water to soak it off, and
place it and let it dry (like my old Revel plastic models), or in the case
of at least the older Guzzi decals, use a decal adhesive.
I know that Guzzi used an adhesive of some nature, *I think* it was used on
the V700s and early Ambassadors, as some of the Stornello decals that are
similar use it. Also the "Corsa" type decals we managed to get (used on
Guzzi factory race bikes in the 50's with the very art deco eagle and
lettering), use such and adhesive.

Stickers have the backing sheet, but are peeled off it and placed. The white
items I got from Domi Racer were on one sheet of square clear material, and
I cut around the eagle and letters so I didn't get a big block around the
whole thing. They were a pain in the ass to shoot, according to my painter.
They fish eyed badly. He thought it was due to the type of material
(vinyl??) or it's thickness. He had never seen anything like it happen
before.

FWIW, I am fairly close to having complete sets of all the original
transfers and decals, or in a couple cases the artwork and screens already,
for Stornellos, V700, Ambassador, and Eldorado. My thought is to be able to
go to a supplier to have an order kicked out with quantities of all of them
in the stock colors. Time is the big restraint at the moment in getting it
all done.

Regards,

CHEESEHEAD

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