Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive


Subject: RE: Dig Guzzi folk

Author: Keith Ruff

Date: Jun 26, 2001, 1:36 PM

Post ID: 1707269788


"What I want to know is how we jumped from starters to chargers?"

Sorry, my fault. I got confused on this problem and mixed up starters
with the charging systems. This started the string. I'll shut up in
the future, and especially won't mention anything about a shifter return
spring........

Keith Ruff
71 Police Amabassador - NJ

Martin Cooke wrote:
 The system doesn't care what starter is on the bike

The system does not care what gen/reg is on the bike as long as they
match

They are not interchangeable. Though you can substitute Lucas for
Marelli as
they use same internal config.

The Good Book (Guzziology) says so. Chapter 18 verse 15

The specs AREN'T right

The two charging systems are wired differently internally

The label on my regulator is STUCK on

Electricity may well be able to read, just not out loud.

What I want to know is how we jumped from starters to chargers?

cookie

Anyhow it's 9:00 pm here & I'm off to get a cup of coffee


----- Original Message -----
From: "Zerhackermann ." <chopp-@hotmail.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: Dig Guzzi folk


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huh?

1) The system doesn't care what starter is on the bike.
2) the system doesn't care what BRAND is on the bike. Electricity can't
read. The label is only there as a quick way to tell what version it is.
And
 that is just a cover that is held on by 2 screws. Unless it is stamped
somewhere else I don't know about. you can use a Ac Delco, ND,
whatever...as
 long as the specs are right.

and since I don't know how to read the windings...I just use the label.
;-}



 From: Martin Cooke <cook-@virgin.net>
Reply-To: Loopfram-@topica.com
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: Dig Guzzi folk
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 20:06:52 +0100

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There is some kind of voodoo magic going on!

The reason you have to use Marelli VR with Marelli generator & Bosch
with
Bosch, is that the field windings, I think (& am far too lazy too look
it
up) are wired directly opposite from make to make & are totally
incompatible.


Thumbs Rule!!

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Zerhackermann ." <chopp-@hotmail.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: Dig Guzzi folk


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I'm confused... why wouldn't the bosch be compatible? the charging
system
 doesn't touch the starting system except via the battery.

The rule that you have to use a marelli VR with a Marelli gen is a
rule
 
 of
 thumb. Just a quick way to know you have a properly rated VR in the
system.
 
unless I am wrong and there is some sort of voodoo magic going that I
don't
 know about.

The boot protectors eh. I have one that is rusted and cracked. But I
was
 
 
 looking at it and it doesn't look all that hard to make. I'll try when
I
 
 get
 some stainless tube



 Z,

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought I was told if you have a
Marelli
 
 starter, you can't use a Bosch in it's place, something to do with
the
 
 
 
 electronics of the bike, perhaps a Marelli generator/regulator not
being
 
 compatible with a Bosch starter???? Just wanted to mention it just
in
 
 
 
 case. As for the junkyard, wish there was one this way! If you find
any of those old style "boot guards", those 1/2 moon shaped guards
that
 
 
 
 bolt onto the valve covers, let me know, I'd like a set!

Thanx!

Keith Ruff
71 Police Amabassador - NJ

Zerhackermann . wrote:
 my Marelli starter is poopy. Last week I mentioned this to a dude
and
he
 
 
 
says he has a bosch. SO saturday I went down and met up and he
gave
 
 me
 
 
 the
bosch starter. yes the solenoid goes UNDER the starter.

I ask him how much. He says "See if you can use it. then let me
know
 
 and
 
 
 
we'll figure something out."

Bitchin.

I stuffed it in my tool roll and headed down to the buckaroo for a
beer.
 
 
 
Down there I ran into greg field. I've known him for a while, so
it
 
 
 
 
 wasn't
like an odd thing. We get to yakking about my green ambo. And he
says
he
 
 
 has
some stuff for me. Next thing I am down in a semi-junk yard/shop
ownded
 
 
 by a
friend of his. and we go digging for the stuff.

Hanging around a junkyard on a sunny afternoon, drinking beer and
talking
bikes. Yeahhh!

why keep having rallies at campgrounds? They should be held in
junkyards.

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