Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive


Subject: RE: Manufacturer/ Dealer attitudes

Author: Karl Kologiski

Date: Nov 6, 2001, 7:19 PM

Post ID: 1708818323


that new Bonnieville American is the ugliest thing on 2 wheels. Looks like a mutant child from a Honda Rebel and a sportster

Karl and Jane Kologiski
Bird at The Wheel, Motorcycle Arts
St. Petersburg Florida

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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Hawkes [SMTP:haw-@frontiernet.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 7:32 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: Manufacturer/ Dealer attitudes

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Amen!
Look what Triumph did to their repop bikes. Yikes!
Bob Hawkes
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Graf <kgr-@midwestpension.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: Manufacturer/ Dealer attitudes


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Eh, screw 'em, if they're not interested in they're "history". Not only
that but Aprilia would probably screw it up trying to make the bike
"safe" by todays standards. Don't get me wrong, I want to see Guzzi
succeed, and I think Aprilia makes some very cool bikes but I just think
I would feel intruded upon by them releasing a repop loopframe. I've
said it before and I'll say it again, leave the loops to people like us
who love to ride 'em and keep 'em on the road.

With Respect,
Kev


David Whalen wrote:
 It's true and obvious that HD and Guzzi manfacturers
hence the dealers, too, don't go out of their way to
provide parts and service for older bikes. Pre evo HD
owners pretty much have to relay on other sources like
we do. It would appear that a good move for
Guzzi/Aprilia would be to remanufacture the Eldo
exactly as it was. Dealers can't sell just six new
model bikes? What's up with that? Of course
Guzzi/Aprilia is intent on sticking to their guns and
(perhaps) dying on the vine. Retro is still hot. Best
to move on it right now Guzzi. (Some people might get
killed with those mechanical brakes!)
dw
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Scot has moved to a new location in Oldsmar Fla,
just outside Tampa. The
airport forced him out of his old place, and yes it
was a mess. His new
location is nice with a large showroom. He is a
dealer for go-ped, which
are selling like crazy (700 bucks for a skateboard &
chainsaw motor) and a
line of 6 wheeled ATV's. He never put in any effort
in his old place
because he new the bulldozers were coming. I kind
of get the feeling that
MGNA really does not want to have anything to do
with the old models. I
have a friend with a early 70's HD and he said that
HD has a similar
attitude. The new Guzzi's are nice but they do not
do anything for me,
except for the new LeMans. I will just keep my
loopframes, they will do
everything a new Guzzi will do, just a little
slower.

Karl and Jane Kologiski
Bird at The Wheel, Motorcycle Arts
St. Petersburg Florida

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Adkins [SMTP:adk-@gte.net]
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:20 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: Blue Moon
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Karl,

I met Scott of Ironhorse a few years back. I'm not
sure if they cleaned up
their shop or not but it was pretty rough when I was
there. He may not have
fit the "image" of a dealer that MGNA wanted.

Also.....MGNA wants new dealers to take a minimun of
6 bikes plus spares. A
pretty hefty load to carry...especially when they
don't offer a buy back
option. The poor dealer in Montreal is still stuck
with 2000 models on his
floor. Those bikes are not going to sell above his
cost and I doubt the
dealer will be ordering any new bikes or carrying
the line next year.

I have to believe that dealers drop a product line
because of poor sales.
I'm not sure of the sales numbers in the Atlanta
area or across the US but
I
know that there aren't too many Guzzis being sold.
Any wonder why outfits
like Zen have dropped the Guzzi line and are now
focusing on HD's.

I agree with you Karl....the more dealers out there
the better.

Regards...Ian


-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Kologiski <jane-@gte.net>
To: 'Loopfram-@topica.com'
<Loopfram-@topica.com>
Date: November 5, 2001 9:58 PM
Subject: RE: Blue Moon


 Could be a turf war. The classic bike shop here in
Tampa (Ironhorse) who
 specializes on old Brit bikes and Old Guzzi's was
looking into taking on
 the new Guzzi line. The plans were a go until the
Guzzi dealer the next
 county over found out and raised hell with Moto
America. The next thing
 the guy at Ironhorse new, MA would not award him
the dealership. I guess
it
 depends on who has the most clout. The Guzzi
dealer who made such a stink
 ended up going out of business anyway. We have a
new one in town and he
 seems to be doing ok. I know Atlanta is a big area
but I am surprised
they
 have or had 4 dealers. Some dealers have mileage
boundary contracts with
 their distributors. To bad, I figure the more
Guzzi dealers the better.
 
Karl and Jane Kologiski
Bird at The Wheel, Motorcycle Arts
St. Petersburg Florida

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