Subject: Re: ORIGINAL LOOP AIR CLEANER
Author: Robert Hawkes
Date: Dec 16, 2001, 5:40 AM
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Charlie,
Ah ha, that's good. Putting a bead on the end of the extension would make it much stouter and would provide a seal on the rubber sleeve. My shop experience is coming back to me! I was thinking that this extension should protrude from the air box about 1 1/2 to 2 inches. What do you think? BOb
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Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: ORIGINAL LOOP AIR CLEANER
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Hi Bob,
Tom's method is really simple - he's just sealing the boot in place on the front plate. I've done the same with Hylomar, that's the way it's on there now. Sure was a messy job when I was doing it though.
What I was going to do was visit my friend who does custom sheet metal fabrication and use his "rolls" to form a suitably robust sleeve with a flange that would fit inside the front plate and had a bead where the boot would slip on. You could also form the metal over a wooden pattern, though it would be more physical and a lot louder :-). A lot easier to do than describe. If I had a scanner, I'd draw up a crude illustration for you.
You wouldn't have to clamp the boot real tight to get an adequate seal, if the boot fit snug over sleeve you really wouldn't have to clamp at all. When I do the pre-season check-up on the old Ambo, I'll probably make a sleeve up.
Cheers,
Charlie
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Charlie,
Tom Bowes wrote in and said something about gluing the rubber sleeve to the airbox. Got any idea what the hell he is talking about. I bet it works for Tom but I can't figure how he did it.
Anyway if you and I do the sheet metal thing there is one thing I think should be done and that is use extra thick sheet metal. When we go to cinch up the sleeve on the extension with the hose clamp even moderate tightening of the hose clamp could crush the sleeve and the extension. Those hose clamps are strong. Another idea is to crimp the edges of the extension just like on the female ends of stove pipe. This makes even thin sheet metal a bit more ridgid. Just some thoughts Charlie. One other thing Charlie, do you have any ideas, step-wise how we are going to put the whole thing together even if it does work? In other words how would we everything connected up, what would go together first and what last? Best, Bob
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Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 7:00 PM
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Hi Bob,
What you describe is exactly what I intend to do next time I have the airbox off. It should be relatively easy to do, depending on your sheet metal skill level. Go for it! Cheers,
Charlie
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Gentlemen,
Currently I have the traditional air cleaner system on my Ambo. , the round air filter, inside the metal air box, loosely connected to the rubber sleeve going to the carbs. The rubber thingy is connected with duct tape. Not a good situation. What I want to do is fix the weak spot in this system which is the loosely connected rubber sleeve to the metal air box. I want to make a metal collar that attaches to the inside of the metal air box and extends out and into the rubber sleeve so that I can put a large hose clamp around the rubber sleeve and cinch it down onto this new extension. Does this make sense? I'd rather not throw out the original air box and put on modern filters. Thanks, Bob
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000080 size=4>Charlie,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000080 size=4>Ah ha, that's good. Putting a bead
on the end of the extension would make it much stouter and would provide a seal
on the rubber sleeve. My shop experience is coming back to me! I was
thinking that this extension should protrude from the air box about 1 1/2 to 2
inches. What do you think? BOb</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<A title=C.D.-@worldnet.att.net
href="mailto:C.D.Mul-@worldnet.att.net">Charlie Mullendore</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=Loopf-@topica.com
href="mailto:Loopfram-@topica.com">Loopfram-@topica.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 15, 2001 11:41
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: ORIGINAL LOOP AIR
CLEANER</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Bob,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tom's method is really simple - he's just sealing
the boot in place on the front plate. I've done the same with
Hylomar, that's the way it's on there now. Sure was a messy job
when I was doing it though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What I was going to do was visit my friend who
does custom sheet metal fabrication and use his "rolls" to form a suitably
robust sleeve with a flange that would fit inside the front plate and had a
bead where the boot would slip on. You could also form the metal over a
wooden pattern, though it would be more physical and a lot louder :-). A
lot easier to do than describe. If I had a scanner, I'd draw up a crude
illustration for you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> You wouldn't have to clamp the boot real
tight to get an adequate seal, if the boot fit snug over sleeve you really
wouldn't have to clamp at all. When I do the pre-season check-up on the old
Ambo, I'll probably make a sleeve up.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cheers, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Charlie</FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 15, 2001 8:42
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: ORIGINAL LOOP AIR
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000080 size=4>Charlie,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000080 size=4>Tom Bowes wrote in and said
something about gluing the rubber sleeve to the airbox. Got any idea
what the hell he is talking about. I bet it works for Tom but I can't
figure how he did it.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000080 size=4>Anyway if you and I do the sheet
metal thing there is one thing I think should be done and that is use extra
thick sheet metal. When we go to cinch up the sleeve on the extension
with the hose clamp even moderate tightening of the hose clamp could crush
the sleeve and the extension. Those hose clamps are strong.
Another idea is to crimp the edges of the extension just like on the female
ends of stove pipe. This makes even thin sheet metal a bit more
ridgid. Just some thoughts Charlie. One other thing Charlie, do
you have any ideas, step-wise how we are going to put the whole thing
together even if it does work? In other words how would
we everything connected up, what would go together first and what
last? Best, Bob</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 15, 2001
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Bob,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What you describe is exactly what I intend to
do next time I have the airbox off. It should be relatively easy to do,
depending on your sheet metal skill level. Go for it! Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Charlie</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 15, 2001
8:49 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000080 size=4>Gentlemen,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000080 size=4>Currently I have the traditional
air cleaner system on my Ambo. , the round air filter, inside the
metal air box, loosely connected to the rubber sleeve going to the
carbs. The rubber thingy is connected with duct tape. Not a
good situation. What I want to do is fix the weak spot in this
system which is the loosely connected rubber sleeve to the metal air
box. I want to make a metal collar that attaches to the inside of
the metal air box and extends out and into the rubber sleeve so
that I can put a large hose clamp around the rubber sleeve and cinch it
down onto this new extension. Does this make sense? I'd
rather not throw out the original air box and put on modern
filters. Thanks, Bob</FONT></STRONG></DIV><PRE>============================================================
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