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Subject: Re: Generator Woes

Author: Allan

Date: Dec 19, 2001, 11:29 PM

Post ID: 1709198717


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Hi
I did the shim for the front of the generator already. The mounting pads with the two bolt holes had been machined away and the space filled with aluminum barstock which was welded into position, the barstock has come loose frome the welds. there is nothing holding the gen. bracket to the engine anymore. I don't see a way to repair this that will last. that was why I was looking for an alternative for mounting the generator.
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From: Patrick Hayes
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: Generator Woes


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In a message dated 12/19/2001 2:41:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, mut-@msn.com writes:



I just can't
face having the engine down again to reweld this with the chance of
distorting the lifter bores.


So don't. I ran my 73 Eldorado for over 100,000 miles with a worn down generator support yoke casting. Without the support at the front end of the generator, vibration will quickly tear the generator bracket to pieces.

Just mount the generator gently and measure or otherwise determine the amount of slop between the generator and the casting. Now get a comparable piece of brass of the same or slightly larger thickness and cut a shim to fit in there. Some snipping and tapping will get it to fit into its curve. If done well, you can have tabs to bend over and hold it in place. The shim will securely take up the loose space and work for maybe 50,000 miles. What more do you want? Let me know if you want a picture and I'll try to draw one.

The big issue is on reinstalling the generator and belt. If you make the belt too tight, it will crush the brass shim quickly, allowing the generator to rock and again break the mounting bracket or one of its mounting bolts. If you make the belt too loose, it will flop and vibrate and set up some motions which might accelerate crushing of the shim. The loopframe belt should be just tight enough to not flop around and certainly NOT taut. It should be nothing like a power steering or air conditioner belt. Just snug.


Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA
EV, EV, SPII, V-65-C, Monza, SuperAlce
MGNOC L-403
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Hi</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> I did the shim for the
front of the generator already. The mounting pads with the two bolt holes
had been machined away and the space filled with aluminum barstock which
was welded into position, the barstock has come loose frome the welds. there is
nothing holding the gen. bracket to the engine anymore. I don't see a way to
repair this that will last. that was why I was looking for an alternative for
mounting the generator.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=p-@aol.com href="mailto:peha-@aol.com">Patrick Hayes</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=Loopf-@topica.com
href="mailto:Loopfram-@topica.com">Loopfram-@topica.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 19, 2001 7:20
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face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=2>In a message dated 12/19/2001 2:41:54 PM
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TYPE="CITE">I just can't<BR>face having the engine down again to reweld this
with the chance of<BR>distorting the lifter bores.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>So
don't. I ran my 73 Eldorado for over 100,000 miles with a worn down
generator support yoke casting. Without the support at the front end of
the generator, vibration will quickly tear the generator bracket to
pieces.<BR><BR>Just mount the generator gently and measure or otherwise
determine the amount of slop between the generator and the casting. Now
get a comparable piece of brass of the same or slightly larger thickness and
cut a shim to fit in there. Some snipping and tapping will get it to fit
into its curve. If done well, you can have tabs to bend over and hold it
in place. The shim will securely take up the loose space and work for
maybe 50,000 miles. What more do you want? Let me know if you want
a picture and I'll try to draw one.<BR><BR>The big issue is on reinstalling
the generator and belt. If you make the belt too tight, it will crush
the brass shim quickly, allowing the generator to rock and again break the
mounting bracket or one of its mounting bolts. If you make the belt too
loose, it will flop and vibrate and set up some motions which might accelerate
crushing of the shim. The loopframe belt should be just tight enough to
not flop around and certainly NOT taut. It should be nothing like a
power steering or air conditioner belt. Just snug.<BR><BR><BR>Patrick
Hayes<BR>Fremont CA<BR>EV, EV, SPII, V-65-C, Monza, SuperAlce<BR>MGNOC
L-403</FONT> <PRE>============================================================
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Order by 12/31/01 for 30% OFF with this coupon code: PEACE
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1983:
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