Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive


Subject: RE: exhaust probs

Author: Jesse Open

Date: Jul 26, 2002, 1:49 PM

Post ID: 1710678067


First GET RID OF THE LOCKNUT ! It only pulls the gland nut AWAY from
the gasket ring and DECREASES the pressure you are relying on to seal
the joint. They MAY work OK if you have little wear on the threads but
you are far better off to PROPERLY tighten the gland nut WITHOUT the
lock ring. The original chrome plated brass gland nuts were very easy on
the aluminum threads and also had a higher coefficient of thermal
expansion which actually caused them to hold better when hot.
A properly tightened nut will hold until you WANT to take it apart.
Most of the problems come from people afraid to tighten them fully for
fear of stripping the threads. A little high temp PERMATEX ANTI SIEZE
and a LOT of ttorque with the PROPER tool are required !
Pipe wrenches , spanner wrenches ,hammer and punch , basin wrenches
etc. are NOT the proper tool. A castellated wrench that drive on the
TANGENT is the best way . The others tend to distort the tubular gland
nut long before the proper torque is achieved. They may work now and
then but to be sure the good tool is a must.
If you don't have access to the right tool ,email me and you may
borrow mine. IT WILL WORK !! :-)
Martin Cooke wrote:
 to whoever wrote this (i've lost track):

"cookie I always thought exhaust if it pops letting off the throttle and
intake air leak if it popped getting on the throtle? B."

an air leak at the exhaust manifold will pop on the over run. an air
leak on
the intake will just make it run weak in my experience.

now if anyone knows how to stop an eldo getting a loose joint at the
head/downpipe i'd like to know. got a friends bike doing this all the
time.
NOT the nut coming loose (it's the locknut type), it just eats the
gasket
after a few miles, air gets in, backfires like crazy. i put new gaskets
in &
it's fine for a while, then same thing.

it started happening when new mufflers were fitted with rear balance
pipe
removed. i think it may be to do with the pipes moving & flattening off
the
gaskets. however the exhaust assy doesn't appear to be moving any more
than
stock.

i must have put 6 sets of ex gaskets in that bike & i'm getting fed up
now.

cookie


----- Original Message -----
From: "E. C. Bud Durdle" <bu-@olympus.net>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: Digest for Loopfram-@topica.com, issue 861


On Wednesday 24 July 2002 10:16 pm, you wrote:
 I heard a little while ago that the popping could be from looseness at
the
head/exhaust header joint, or somewhere close to that. Check to make
sure
the exhaust is tight up there, and/or has no leaks.

 I am working on a 74 Eldo I just picked up with Amal Carbs. When I let
off the throttle and am gearing down
it pops through the mufflers. I have played with the air screws and it
has
gotten better, but it is still
 there. I have checked the carb intake gaskets and they are fine. Someone
told me
this is a common problem with running amals on a Guzzi. Any ideas


 
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:05:15 +0100
From: "Martin Cooke" <mjco-@nildram.co.uk>
Subject: Re: carb & air filter question


almost certainly an air leak as matt has said

cookie

cookie I always thought exhaust if it pops letting off the throttle and
intake air leak if it popped getting on the throtle? B.



1972 Eldo Cop
1974 Eldo 4LS Civvie
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