Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive


Subject: Re:wheelbase/wobbles

Author: Gln-@aol.com

Date: Apr 21, 2003, 8:04 AM

Post ID: 1712699155




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Barry

Guzzi had an alternate top plate for the triple tree that kicked the bottom
of the forks out to reduce trail. This makes the steering much lighter which
is a great help with a side car rig. Same idea as with the BMW/2 earles fork
models. Only draw back is that it makes the bike tend to go into a wobble
when the side car is removed. Local dealer had one that he crashed on a test
ride as it hit a pot hole and went into a wobble. I have the upper triple
clamp from that bike and as I recall there is about 1/8" to 3/16" difference
in the position of the holes for the tubes. The top of the fork tubes are
pulled back which changes the rake and trail. It lengthens the wheelbase by
about 1/2 inch. Makes for much lighter steering on a sidecar rig.

Garry in Oregon

 Subject: Newby....wheelbase/wobbles



Hi, my name's Barry.
I'm considering buying a 1970, ex LAPD Ambo 750, and I'm told it has a
longer wheelbase than most,thanks to its non standard triple tree/fork
angle, which gives more rake to the forks, and makes it more suited to
hauling the sidecar it's attached to.
My question: what's the standand wheelbase of this model, and can anyone
confirm that this triple tree/long wheelbase was infact an option.
I read with interest some posts to this list re speed wobbles, how
common a problem is it?
I have heard that the early /5 BMW's from the seventies had wobble woes,
so they brought out a the long frame version.
Did Guzzi do the same with the " Loopys "?
Thanks alot, Barry Swanson, New Zealand.


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Guzzi had an alternate top plate for the triple tree that kicked the bottom of the forks out to reduce trail. This makes the steering much lighter which is a great help with a side car rig. Same idea as with the BMW/2 earles fork models. Only draw back is that it makes the bike tend to go into a wobble when the side car is removed. Local dealer had one that he crashed on a test ride as it hit a pot hole and went into a wobble. I have the upper triple clamp from that bike and as I recall there is about 1/8" to 3/16" difference in the position of the holes for the tubes. The top of the fork tubes are pulled back which changes the rake and trail. It lengthens the wheelbase by about 1/2 inch. Makes for much lighter steering on a sidecar rig.<BR>
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Garry in Oregon<BR>
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Hi, my name's Barry.<BR>
I'm considering buying a 1970, ex LAPD Ambo 750, and I'm told it has a <BR>
longer wheelbase than most,thanks to its non standard triple tree/fork <BR>
angle, which gives more rake to the forks, and makes it more suited to <BR>
hauling the sidecar it's attached to.<BR>
My question: what's the standand wheelbase of this model, and can anyone <BR>
confirm that this triple tree/long wheelbase was infact an option.<BR>
I read with interest some posts to this list re speed wobbles, how <BR>
common a problem is it?<BR>
I have heard that the early /5 BMW's from the seventies had wobble woes, <BR>
so they brought out a the long frame version.<BR>
Did Guzzi do the same with the " Loopys "?<BR>
Thanks alot, Barry Swanson, New Zealand. <BR>
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