Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive


Subject: Re: The Eldo's Woes

Author: Chuck Stottlemyer

Date: Jun 10, 2004, 10:40 AM

Post ID: 1716948208



10% leakdown isn't *terrible*. I've gotta think it's something else.
Maybe Fred has it with galled oil pump..
At any rate, 110C (230f) still is ok. But.
FWIW, an AeroShell rep told me one time that 240 was ok with their
synthetic blend.
Cheers!
Chuck

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Thanks everyone. Here's the latest:

It was originally a chain-drive lower end. I converted it to gear-drive,
using stock Guzzi gears. My first thought was oil pump, since this one
has 80,000 miles on it since I put it on the bike and an untold number
from its first owner, so I changed back to chain drive and another
9,000-mile pump. I hate the whirring noise of the Valtek tensioner, but
I don't have any more time for messing with it right now.

Last fall, when I converted to 950-cc Nikasil, I also converted to run
an oil filter. Two days ago I added a sump spacer and tried it with and
without another quart of oil. This helped, bringing me up to 45 psi and
47 psi, respectively. The base problem still remains, though: it's
heating up the oil too much. On a 70-degree day at a steady 75 mph, the
oil heats up to 110 degrees C. That's way too hot. (BTW, you can add a
spacer to non-filter twins. Patrick Hayes had one on his Eldo, and I had
another I got in a pile of parts that I passed on to another Seattle
Eldo rider. I can't remember what company made them. Also, you can add
the Escher filter conversion, which includes a sump spacer.)

I ran a leakdown test yesterday. Results were 10 percent right (with
predominent leakage through the exhaust valve) and 5 percent right. 5
percent is darn good. 10 percent is not. I'm gonna lap the valves,
hopefully today. I still don't see how that valve leakage would
contribute to the heat problem, but a mechanic said it could because the
whole engine has to work harder to get the power to run those speeds.
We'll see.

Anyway, I think I'm just gonna ignore the gauges and go to the National
anyway, but maybe at slower speeds than I'm used to running.

GF

 
This is still a non-oil-filter lower end? I assume you would add the
spacer but keep the oil at the same level in relation to the pickup?

Is yours a gear or chain model? On the gear models, I have seen several
oil pumps with galled gears, and galled holes in the block where the
pump shaft runs.


73 Eldo
78 T3/949

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