Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive


Subject: RE: Transmission Input Gear

Author: joe jump

Date: Nov 19, 2004, 6:30 AM

Post ID: 1717913695



With regard to the hub nut, MG Cycles sells a hex replacement nut; I
think it's the same nut as used on the output shaft. Sure makes putting
it together and subsequent disassemblies a lot easier. I've used the
hammer/punch method to remove the ring nuts; not pretty but I had a hex
replacement. The "make your own tool" method would be much more elegant,
and then you could be a buddy deluxe & lend it out to fellow loopers
(ahem.....)

Bruce Giller wrote:
 
Ted,
When I had a look-see at my Eldo's clutch, I found that the tranny
ring nut was loose which made for easy removal. But I made my own ring
nut
tool. Purchased an inexpensive 1/2" drive socket ($6 ?) with a OD the
same
as the ring nut, transferred the locations of the slots onto the socket,
used my right angle grinder to get rid of most of the metal, and then
hand
fitted the socket to the nut using a file. Took about 30 minutes to get
it
all done.

But this doesn't help you get out the one that is holding your
tranny hub on. If I remember correctly, the ring nut is pretty far down
inside the hub which makes it most difficult to angle a
screwdriver/punch
onto one of the notches to hammer it free. One way is to buy a new ring
nut
and make your own ring nut socket to remove the old one.

What about making a two-pronged tool out of 1/8" flat stock that
would engage two holes and give you enough surface area about the tranny
hub
to turn it with pliers; probably would look like (good ol' ASCII art):

____________
| |
| |-----
| |
| |______
| |
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Or if you have some really strong solid round stock that you can
bend, you can shape it into a U which will do the same thing.

If have the 2 mm clutch setup, you might want to think upgrading to
4 mm. Since your input hub is shot which is quite expensive, changing
the
clutch discs doesn't seem all that bad. I purchased new 2 mm clutch
discs
to replace the oil soaked ones and refurbished the tranny hub with a
file.
Eventually the tranny hub developed notches in it which made shifting a
Real
PITA and had to replaced - I went 4 mm.

You can use the tranny hub to align all your clutch discs and also
compress the springs so that all you need to do is tighten down the
bolts
without the worry of warping an intermediate plate. I found procedure
in
the MGOC Tips Book 1 and I think it has been discussed on this forum as
well.

Bruce

'72 Eldo

-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Ward [mailto:ju-@astrocomma.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:29 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Transmission Input Gear

Okay I began to reassemble my clutch when I noticed the problem that
caused
me to dissasemble the thing in the first place. All the clutch
components
are fine, but the transmission input gear looks like it has had the crap

beat out of it. So I guess I'm gonna order a new one ($95 bucks phew)

My question: Do I need the ring nut tool
(http://www.mgcycle.com/tools.html)

to get out the old hub? It looks like the PO may have tried to get it
out
without success, the nut in there looks a *little* bit mangled. I can't
think of any other way to get it out easily, but I hate to spend $36 on
a
tool I'll probably only use once.

My comment: It is beyond me HOW ON EARTH you guys would ever assemble
the
clutch with the motor still in the frame. With the motor on its nose, I
had
a tough time keeping the springs in place, not to mention lining up the
intermediate plate.

Ted



Joe in St Louis
850T-Powered Ambo

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