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Subject: Re: Another stab at it

Author: Tom Halchuk

Date: Jan 21, 2005, 2:36 PM

Post ID: 1718251018



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Have you looked under the dist, cap? wire or contacts shorting out against distributor? and at the dist cap? cracked

Wiring in the ignition switch? loose, frayed...........

Spark plug leads cracked?

Cracked spark plug?

Loose connection somewhere?

Tom
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From: Ted Ward
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: Another stab at it


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I changed the condensor and loosened the gas cap. The coil is new, but that doesn't mean it isn't bad I guess. Would the coil work until the motor warmed up though? Do the sparkplugs require more spark in a warm engine?
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Subject: RE: Another stab at it


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Change the condenser lately?

Gas cap plugged?

Coil going bad?

???

Rich


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From: Ted Ward [mailto:ju-@astrocomma.com]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 1:45 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Another stab at it



Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor:-------------------------------------------------------------------Like music? Get a CD player on us. Click here.http://click.topica.com/caac48Rb1dfltbNF23Yb/PermissionData-------------------------------------------------------------------Hiall. I am still troubleshooting my eldo, but haven't done anything in a while due to lack of time, but I just realized what is happening. Before I was thinking it was timing related, but I messed with it again today and here it is:

When I first start it and the bike is cool it runs great. After 3 or 4 minutes once the bike reaches operating temperature it begins to sputter and miss. This mostly happens on acceleration, but the bike will idle fine. If I kill it and let it sit for 5 minutes, it will run smoothly again for a short time until it heats back up, then the ame thing. This happens whether the enrichener is applied or not (if it is on and the bike is warm, it just makes things worse).

I have adjusted the valves several times in accordance with the chiltons manual and have seen no change.

Any new suggestions?



Ted Ward

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Have you looked under the dist, cap? wire or
contacts shorting out against distributor? and at the dist cap?
cracked</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wiring in the ignition switch? loose,
frayed...........</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Spark plug leads cracked?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cracked spark plug?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Loose connection somewhere? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I changed the condensor and loosened the gas cap.
The coil is new, but that doesn't mean it isn't bad I guess. Would the coil
work until the motor warmed up though? Do the sparkplugs require more spark in
a warm engine?</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=-@co.alameda.ca.us href="mailto:rzi-@co.alameda.ca.us">Rich
Zink</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 21, 2005 3:58
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
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condenser lately?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Gas cap
plugged?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Coil going
bad?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">???<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi all. I am still
troubleshooting my eldo, but haven't done anything in a while due
to lack of time, but I just realized what is happening. Before I was
thinking it was timing related, but I messed with it again today and here it
is:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">When I first start it and the
bike is cool it runs great. After 3 or 4 minutes once the bike reaches
operating temperature it begins to sputter and miss. This mostly happens on
acceleration, but the bike will idle fine. If I kill it and let it sit for 5
minutes, it will run smoothly again for a short time until it heats back up,
then the ame thing. This happens whether the enrichener is applied or not
(if it is on and the bike is warm, it just makes things
worse).</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have adjusted the valves
several times in accordance with the chiltons manual and have seen no
change.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Any
new suggestions?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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