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Subject: RE: Even more eldo dash- I replaced the regulator-not fixed

Author: brian c

Date: Feb 10, 2005, 5:46 PM

Post ID: 1718370707



It is not spinning the generator right now, but still shorting at the
dash light and blowing fuses- SO I have now ruled out the regulator and
i am pretty darn sure that the wiring is all correct- so I guess the
only thing this leaves is the generator itself- but if it were shorted
internally, would it still have spun like that?


George Hoxie wrote:
 


Time for a regulator. One of the components inside functions as a
reverse
current relay. It's sprung open, to prevent battery current from
motorizing
the generator (which is normal, as others have mentioned). When
functioning
correctly, this relay is closed by generator output voltage. In your
regulator,
these points have welded themselves closed, hence no disconnect. This
also explains the fuse going, as the resistance of the generator
armature is
quite low. Regards.



----- Original Message -----
From: "brian c" <bcoo-@creedon.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:25 PM
Subject: Even more eldo dash wiring help- narrowed down


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Ok, so when I got home tonight I began eliminating wires one by one- and
it is the red wire going to the generator- now here is a weird/bad
thing- I put in a higher amp fuse so it would not short immediately and
when I did this and put the white/black light from the fuse block(power)
to the generator light with the red wire comign from the generaTOR it
started spinning the generator- I have never seEn that before, I
double(and triple)checked the genrator and regulator wires and
everything seems fine- ANY CLUES? Thanks for all the help so far.

Brian



Paul P. Linn wrote:
 
Did you try unhooking one wire at a time to see which was the cause of
the
blown fuse? What I mean by that is remove the wire from the generator
side
and check, then re-install and remove the wire going to the oil pressure
and
then do the same going to the neutral switch. Also try removing the
starter
button wire from the top of the fuse and see what happens. Process of
elimination.

Paul
73 Eldo "Elvira" 949 conversion
74 Eldo "Daisy" undergoing a full police restoration


-----Original Message-----
From: brian c [mailto:bcoo-@creedon.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:37 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: MORE eldo dash wiring help Paul Linn?


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Thank you for the clarification- I re-wired the connections last night
as below, and I am still having a problem- the fuse keeps blowing
between the white/black wire and the blue/black one at the fuse
terminal???? man, sometimes I hate wiring.





Paul P. Linn wrote:
 
Ok, here goes.

Neutral light - green wire from switch

Oil pressure light - gray wire from oil pressure unit

Generator light - red wire from generator

Jumper (white/black) from the neutral light to the oil pressure light
to
the
generator light to the fuse panel. These are your power wires.

Lights indicator - as you have it. Case of light grounds to frame.


Paul
73 Eldo "Elvira" 949 conversion
74 Eldo "Daisy" undergoing a full police restoration


-----Original Message-----
From: brian c [mailto:bcoo-@creedon.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 11:36 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: eldo dash wiring help needed- idiot lights?


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I don't know if I can link photos here, but I am going to try- at any
rate, I am re-wiring this bike, a 73 eldo with dual dash, and I have not


done one of these in a while and i can't figure it out from my wiring
diagram- I have 4 idiot lights, two of them on the left side have two
spade connectors each and the other 2 have a single female connector
each-
2 spade connectors:

Neutral - has green wire from neutral switch on one and a short wire
going to the oil pressure spade connector on the other.

Oil Pressure- has grey wire from oil pressure sending unit on one and
the shore wire to neutral indicator on the other

Female connectors:

Generator- has on red wire coming from the generator

lights indicator- has one yellow/black wire from light circuit

now, from my wiring diagram for this bike it looks like there should
be
a white/black wire coming from the fuse block to the generator light as
well- is this correct, and if so, how am I sopposed to connect it? It
also loks liek there should be a wire connecting the generator light to
the oil pressure light- if so, how do I connect it? just splice it in?



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Berkeley, CA
'73 Eldo
74 eldo
73 v7sport

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'72 Eldo
'74 850-T

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'74 850-T

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Berkeley, CA
'72 Eldo
'74 850-T

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