Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive


Subject: Re: parts needed

Author: andy hill

Date: Mar 6, 2005, 12:25 PM

Post ID: 1718499272



Pat-
hi there- yep- changed the cap, roror, and condenser. cleaned and filed
the points, and checked the voltage at the points with a multi-meter
[12.8 volts]. strange, strange!!! isolating block is in good shape, too,
nothing grounding out. i can't afford to pull out much more hair!!! :>p
thanks!!!!
andy

Patrick Hayes wrote:

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andy hill wrote:

 is there any way to test an ignition coil? the other bike still has
no fire. 12volts in, 12 volts out, no spark. tried a new napa coil,
nada.


Trial and error unless you have a coil bench tester. Rare items.
Since you have used a new coil with the same results, I'd start
looking elsewhere.

The coil gets "energized" when the points are closed and contacted.
When the points open, the 12v circuit to the coil is broken. The
energized magnetic field within the coil collapses catastrophically
and "induces" a huge whack of high voltage spark in the process.

The breaking of the 12v coil circuit happens by opening the points.
However, this is a dynamically slow, gradual process as the points are
levered open by the rotating cam and there is some voltage bleedoff at
the contact surfaces as they open.

So, we use a condenser as a small, temporary electrical storage
device. It is there to keep a good voltage supply in the 12v circuit
until the point contact surfaces are fully separated. Then the
condenser finishes its discharge INTSTANTLY and this leads to the
catastrophic field collapse and subsequent spark generation.

What's the condition of your point contact surfaces? Are you sure
there isn't any debris causing a short of the 12v circuit? Have you
substituted a replacement condenser?

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA

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