Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive


Subject: RE: Intermittent starter problem

Author: Robert Hawkes

Date: Jul 9, 2005, 4:54 AM

Post ID: 1719136769



Rob, A Loop rarely strands anyone, unless of catastrophic part failure. In
all my times of troubles with my Ambo the only time I was actually stranded
was when my universal joint snapped in two 30 mi from home. Anyway, I have
had major starter problems twice now. Several times would not turn over
while out and about, so I simply popped the clutch in second gear. While
this is not an ideal way to start any motorcycle it is easier than you may
think. Obviously you want a working starter but your bike will, in general,
not let you down. Until you get confident on your starter, while out and
about, just park your bike near an area that has an incline and let gravity
assist you. Just a suggestion, Bob Hawkes

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Prins [mailto:rob_pr-@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:30 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: RE: Intermittent starter problem

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This is timely, I've been having to hit the switch anywhere from 1-3
times to get the starter to spin (I get solenoid action every time).
This way I'll know not to be a "Clem".

Any ideas on how long I should be able to fake it before I get stranded?
In other words, does this situation tend to go downhill fast or can I
ignore it for the rest of the week/month/season without significant risk
of getting stranded?

If Lannis' buddy Clem helps me out and winds up mickeying the solenoid
on my Marelli starter, will my Bosch starter bolt in as a replacement
unit?

Lannis, speaking of your friend, how is his clutch work coming?

Rob

Lannis wrote:
 

Patrick Hayes wrote:
 

 
DO NOT omit the gasket on reassembly and DO NOT fabricate another gasket

 
 

from thinner material. The gasket thickness appears to play a minor but

 
 

important role in the "timing" of the starter motor functions. One
function is to drive the starter pinion forward into the flywheel teeth.

 
 

The second function is to spin the starter motor. You DO NOT want to

 
 get the starter spinning before the pinion teeth are engaged or you risk

 
 

some serious flywheel damage.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA

Patrick -

Suppose, just suppose (now this is just a rhetorical question, I didn't
REALLY destroy the old gasket and neglect to put another one in), that
someone (some other guy, call him Clem since we're just pretending) DID
tear up the old gasket and throw it away and forgot to put another one
one. (What a dummy he'd be, supposing there was such a feller, eh?).

So where would Clem get another gasket, just speaking theoretically? Do

the MG Cycle and Moto Internationals sell the right ones, or is this a
do-it-yourself? (I mean do it HIMself, of course, since this is some
other dude.)

And if the gasket can't be obtained, what sort of material would you
suggest that the new one be made of? Maybe you got one you could
measure and let us know? (Just in case there WAS such a guy).

Thanks for expounding your experience for us, and for this virtual guy
who doesn't exist.....!

Lannis

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