Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive


Subject: RE: VIN # Ambo or Eldo

Author: Paul P. Linn

Date: Jul 13, 2005, 6:49 AM

Post ID: 1719155430



Steve,

Welcome to the list! By the looks of it you may have the very first Ambo out
of production. I have not come across one with A12000 yet, so right now
yours is the first! Yep, no 10XXX, 11XXX or even 19XXX or 20XXX that we can
find. The only real way to check if yours is really a Ambassador is to pull
the head and measure the piston. 80mm for V700 and 83mm for Ambo and Eldo.
The Eldo just used a longer stroke to obtain the 850cc. I wouldn't pull the
head unless you are rebuilding everything, no sense in disabling a running
bike just to satisfy your curiosity right? So far to date we have 321 loops
accounted for of which 38 are V700, 130 are Ambassador and 153 Eldorados.
But I know there are more out there, as not everybody has volunteered their
VIN for the records.


Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Ingram [mailto:sing-@atlantic.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:53 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: VIN # Ambo or Eldo

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Since we're making introductions and talking VIN #'s here, I've been lurking
on the list here for a couple of weeks now. My name is Steve and I just
acquired what I believe to be an early Ambo. The chassis number is 12.001
and the engine number is A12001. I found an article on the MGNOC website by
Ian Adkins about 'rare birds' that refers to this A prefix as maybe being
pre-production or first run production Ambos.
(http://www.mgnoc.com/_overlay/Archives/rare_birds.htm) He
also mentions that he has not seen an Ambo with #'s 10xxx or 11xxx.
Mine has a manufacture date of Dec. 1968 which also does not fit what I've
been able to find about Ambos. Do I actually have a very early Ambo or is
it a V700 with an Ambo decal stuck on it?

Thanks for your help and I'm sure I'll be back with more questions as I
become more familiar with the bike. BTW, I'm in Gainesville, FL
and just missed the gathering at Big Daddy's a couple of weeks ago.
I had just acquired the bike and did not have the registration (or a
license) yet. I hope to make the gathering coming up in Brooksville in
October.

Steve

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