Subject: Re: Digest for Loopfram-@topica.com, issue 2113
Author: Diane Brannick
Date: Aug 11, 2005, 5:43 AM
Post ID: 1719282183
Gilardonis for sale.
On Aug 11, 2005, at 3:58 AM, Loopfram-@topica.com wrote:
| -- Topica Digest -- eldo cylinder kits ,stock or big bore ?? By Rapf-@aol.com RE: eldo cylinder kits ,stock or big bore ?? By hacksa-@hotmail.com RE: eldo cylinder kits ,stock or big bore ?? By jr-@avalon.net RE: Mystery engine noises By jr-@avalon.net road trip ride report - long By rob_pr-@hotmail.com RE: Digest for Loopfram-@topica.com, issue 2108 By rob_pr-@hotmail.com Re: Mystery engine noises - used chrome v new nikasil By moore-@cablespeed.com RE: Digest for Loopfram-@topica.com, issue 2108 By mjon-@yahoo.com RE: road trip ride report - long By gr-@thisoldtractor.com RE: Anybody going to the PA Rally? By c.d.mul-@att.net RE: Digest for Loopfram-@topica.com, issue 2108 By c.d.mul-@att.net Re: [BULK]RE: Anybody going to the PA Rally? By motres-@lynchburg.net RE: [BULK]Museum Piece By bluezi-@att.net New Nikasil sets By kkurb-@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 08:57:21 EDT From: Rapf-@aol.com Subject: eldo cylinder kits ,stock or big bore ?? -------------------------------1123678641 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all , I started looking for some new cylinder kits for my eldo but no one seems to have them tried MG , classics and cycle garden with no luck .Any other ideas ? I have found big bore kits for the eldo , anyone out their have them on a eldo or any input on them. thanks Rick -------------------------------1123678641 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2668" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bottomMargin=7 leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>Hi all , I started looking for some new cylinder kits for my eldo but no one seems to have them tried MG , classics and cycle garden with no luck .Any other ideas ?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3> I have found big bore kits for the eldo , anyone out their have them on a eldo or any input on them.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>thanks Rick</FONT></DIV></DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1123678641-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:21:15 +0000 From: Hacksaw <hacksa-@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: eldo cylinder kits ,stock or big bore ?? I've got a Big Bore kitted Eldo motor in my stock Ambo chassis and can't say enough good things about it. The numbers say it's only 100cc's bigger but the seat of the pants and highway performance says MAN WHAT A DIFFERENCE. I pull a 250+ lb sidecar that has about 8 square feet of frontal area with mine and LOVE IT. I would recommend it to anyone replacing their pistons/cylinders. Hacksaw PS I was told that I would feel a bit more vibration but I can't honestly say that I do or don't. Rapf-@aol.com wrote:
non � rumore che sia musica ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 16:44:43 +0000 From: Jason Telford <jr-@avalon.net> Subject: RE: eldo cylinder kits ,stock or big bore ?? LOL, I'll take counterpoint. I had a big bore kit on my Eldo and I took it off. I like the 850 better and it also seems a bit smoother to me. I bet with a hack you can feel it, but I cannot tell any power differences. I ride pretty sedately, but I like to cruise at 75ish. J Hacksaw wrote:
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 16:51:12 +0000 From: Jason Telford <jr-@avalon.net> Subject: RE: Mystery engine noises To just look at it is real easy- a dozen or so bolts hold the pan on. Drop it off- it's a good idea to clean it out while you're there- and take a look up underneath. The rods do move back and forth some- don't be surprised. They shouldn't be loose on the bearings and to measure the clearance you need some plastigauge. Then again, it could be loose wristpins. They were worn out on my G5. Dang- I only got 375,000 miles out of that engine before it needed new pistons. I should complain. There's two advantages of letting Mark E. go through your bike. 1 is that you damn well know it's going to be right. 2 is that he's a pretty entertaining fellow. Edward Walton wrote:
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:31:50 +0000 From: Rob Prins <rob_pr-@hotmail.com> Subject: road trip ride report - long I took a short vacation last week; I rode my V700 up to Michigan to visit some family and friends. I took off at noon Wednesday and wound my way through some West Virginia backroads, eventually to Ripley WV and then followed the 33 to Logan OH. Once I got out of the hills the riding was uncomfortably warm; I noticed a temp of 104 on a bank sign in Pomeroy OH. I guess that would be an �indicated� 104, I don't know how hot it really was. I camped overnight in Logan OH for $5, that fee included access to a gas station type bathroom. I could have used a shower as the day had been pretty hot, but the price was right. Anyway, the next morning I continued my avoidance of slab by making my way around the south side of Columbus, and had a late breakfast in Urbana at a diner in the city square. About 20 miles north of breakfast (in Bellefontaine) I left from a traffic light, pulled in the clutch to shift to second, and found myself with a handful of limp clutch lever. I pulled into a convenient parking lot and even had the presence of mind to kill the engine before I tried to stop. A quick inspection showed that the cable �button� on the tranny side of the clutch cable had popped off (4500 miles on cable). Fortunately I had a spare packed so 1/2 hour later I was on my way. The rest of the trip to my folks place near Grand Rapids MI was warm again, but uneventful. There appeared to be some scattered showers, and did feel the occasional rain drop, but I stayed dry. Spent some good time with the folks, changed my oil, jumped in a pool, and helped my brother pull stumps with his new-to-him 1952 International Harvester �M� tractor. Saturday evening I headed north to Luther MI (near Cadillac). The country roads up that way are fairly straight, but its pretty riding anyway. The roads tend to follow the natural contour of the ground so there is some variation to hold your attention. Sunday was pretty boring; I hoped to make it home during the day on Monday so I had to put some miles behind me. I resorted to slab for a few hundred miles, and made it as far south as Athens OH before giving in and getting a hotel. On Monday I decided the heck with it, I'll get back when I get back and returned to my slab avoiding ways. This can be a bit tricky in WV without significant pre-planning and a good atlas. I had my state map and a lot of time, which I spent making wrong turns and following �wrong� roads until they petered out into someones front yard at the end of the line. I did get to ride some cool roads though. Eventually I made it to more familiar territory and made it home. Somewhere on Monday it started to rain so home was a welcome sight. Overall about 1800 miles total, well over 40 saddle hours, and one moral: carry a spare clutch cable. Rob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:35:13 +0000 From: Rob Prins <rob_pr-@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: Digest for Loopfram-@topica.com, issue 2108 Mike, Welcome to VA! You will love the ride possibilities. check out http://www.vaguzzi.com/for info on the SW VA lunch. Hope to see you and your loop there. Rob mjon-@yahoo.com wrote:
------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 13:45:26 -0400 From: "Matt Moore" <moore-@cablespeed.com> Subject: Re: Mystery engine noises - used chrome v new nikasil Ted, I understand what you are saying about how others may respond on other lists. Must be nice to have a lot of extra $$ to spend on your pet project, eh? ;-) This does and does not apply to what I have answered to Ed's question. The reason I am recommending going with the Gilardoni sets instead of dinking around with used sets (and if you want to do it that way, I'm all for it) is because when the chrome comes off it doesn't just affect the cylinders and pistons, it can junk an entire engine (or at least cost you more $$ than the kits will). I caught mine after some serious damaage was done, but not before it got too far out of hand. I had to replace the con rod bearings and top end bushings with the new piston sets. My main bearings, crank, cam and cam bearings, lifters, rockers and assemblies all had some damage from the chrome flakes but nothing too serious. I am not saying that using used chrome bores can't be done and that you might not get a lot of miles out of them (I mean, they were made for million mile touring, right?) But to me, the possible consequences of the chrome failure leads me to recommend usingn the nikasil. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:09:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael S. Jones" <mjon-@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Digest for Loopfram-@topica.com, issue 2108 I see that I messed up the subject line again. Sorry. Lenny, I received my first full-time teaching position. I'm teaching philosophy at Liberty University in Lynchburg. Classes haven't started yet, but the faculty meetings have been very pleasantly collegial. Maybe next year I'll make it to the PA guzzi rally. Do you usually attend? Charlie, I'm sorry to hear that you aren't that close to me. I'm planning on joining Ron and crew for the monthly southern Virginia get together. Do you ever ride down to those? While I'm typing, I'll mention that I, too, saw that ad for the guy selling his bike (Vert?) because he turned 80. I doubt I'll live that long, but if I do I hope I will still be riding the Ambo - with my Velorex sidecar, probably. A little adversity sometimes helps keep you going. -Mike (69 ambo, 77 vert) M.Jones, associate editor, Journal for the Study of Religions and Ideologies (http://hiphi.ubbcluj.ro/JSRI/) "The heart has its reasons which reason does not know." -Blaise Pascal "With man, instinct and reason avoid each other with adversity, yet, by repudiating each other they lure each other to reach mutual correction." -Lucian Blaga __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:56:08 +0000 From: Greg Bender <gr-@thisoldtractor.com> Subject: RE: road trip ride report - long Good story, Rob. Makes me wish I hadn't been landscaping the house for the past three weekends! Rob Prins wrote:
Regards, Greg Bender 1971 Ambassador 2000 Quota http://www.thisoldtractor.com/gtbender Florida MGNOC website http://www.thisoldtractor.com/fl_mgnoc Minnesota MGNOC website http://www.thisoldtractor.com/mn_mgnoc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:12:36 +0000 From: Charlie Mullendore <c.d.mul-@att.net> Subject: RE: Anybody going to the PA Rally? Hi Noel, This Fri.-Sun., 12th-14th at the Sunrise Campground near Lock Haven, PA. Cheers, Noel McCormack wrote:
Charlie http://www.loopframeguzzi.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 23:22:30 +0000 From: Charlie Mullendore <c.d.mul-@att.net> Subject: RE: Digest for Loopfram-@topica.com, issue 2108 Hi Mike, Hoping to make one later this year, lots of other events coming up - a few the same weekend as the VA get-togethers. Sooner or later Sophia will be in SW VA... mjon-@yahoo.com wrote:
Charlie http://www.loopframeguzzi.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 19:24:39 -0400 From: "Ron Komoroski" <motres-@lynchburg.net> Subject: Re: [BULK]RE: Anybody going to the PA Rally? Charlie,Noel & All, Alice & I are heading out tomorrow morning, going to do a one day run & camp at the rally ground tomorrow night. Roger & Marilyn from Petersburg Va will be leaving Friday morning. Joe Sokol is leaving tomorrow also, but staying over w/ relatives & visiting the Gettysburg battlefield, so he'll be arriving late Friday. Ron Komoroski ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 02:43:26 +0000 From: bluezi-@att.net Subject: RE: [BULK]Museum Piece --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_4648_1123728206_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sounds to me like he'd been better off getting rid of the wife, not the Guzzi, after reaching 80 years old! Bill "they can have my motorcycles when they pry my cold dead fingers from them" Snyder 73 Bronze Eldo -------------- Original message from Richard Arimoto <arim-@cemrc.org>: --------------
Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <html> <!-- BEGIN WEBMAIL STATIONERY --> <head></head> <body> <!-- WEBMAIL STATIONERY noneset --> <DIV></DIV> <P>Sounds to me like he'd been better off getting rid of the wife, not the Guzzi, after reaching 80 years old! </P> <P> </P> <P>Bill "they can have my motorcycles when they pry my cold dead fingers from them" Snyder</P> <P>73 Bronze Eldo<BR></P> <!-- END WEBMAIL STATIONERY --> </body> </html> --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_4648_1123728206_0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:07:10 +0000 From: Keith K <kkurb-@aol.com> Subject: New Nikasil sets After carefully pondering my Ambos' fate, I figured I would take a crow bar to my wallet and spring for a new set of Nikasil setups. I also nabbed the gasket kit, as well as the polished hardware kit t0 bolt her all up. I should be applying the decals and clear coat on the tin this weekend. To date I have baout 1200 bucks and my time in her, so i figure I am ahead. As long as she runs and looks pretty I can go to work without fear of wearing mama's point shoes out the back of my pants! I am humbly asking for some advice on two things. First, does anyone have the proper torque sequence on the bolts? I found the spec at 29 pounds, but the sequence seems to elude me. Secondly, I saw here somewhere that I will need to stagger the rings, is that simply a random stagger, or is there a strange pattern that must be followed in order to have them seat properly? And I also read where some folks broke the rings when installing them on the piston, is there a particular tool for this job? I am learning so much about this old girl, it's a great experience for me. The fun part will be the wiring. But after I slap all the new gaskets on the engine and trans, I hope to have her road worthy in 3 weeks so I have some time in the Fall to enjoy her. ------------------------------ End of Loopfram-@topica.com digest, issue 2113 |