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Subject: Re: advice...still have clutch woes

Author: halc-@comcast.net

Date: Aug 17, 2005, 12:56 PM

Post ID: 1719311406



From memory not always a good thing

Get a new pushrod, get the oring kit from Moto International and a new throw out bearing and washer.

Remove the rear swing arm to access the rear tranny. follow the directions for installing the orings .(lube lube lube) and install push rod, and thrust bearing, washer (lube lube lube)

It will take about 3-4 hours (with 2 beers)

Remember to lube lube lube
It should be relatively easy UNLESS the pushrod is all narly in there.

Tom


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Thanks.

Don't know quite what I'm going to do - perhaps nothing at
the moment. When I fixed my tranny, I put in the throwout
bearing incorrectly (missed a race - washer), rode it for
about 60 miles like that until it finally gave up the
ghost.

Currently the clutch has a very short effective range of
motion i.e. the clutch disengages/engages over just a
tiny bit of motiion on the lever in the middle of its
overall throw. I'm wondering if I didn't grind off some
of the pushrod or maybe its just a well worn clutch. I'm
going to do a complete teardown for the cosmetic upgrade
this winter, but thought I might futz with it if it could
be done without ripping it out again (which I can now do
in my sleep).

I have the "old stuff" in there now, but I do have 3 cone
seals from MG cycle waiting on the bench, and yes, I have
a parts book.

-tom

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:44:27 +0000

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Yes You may need to remove the swingarm.

Are you putting in the Moto International seal (o-ring)
kit?


Do you have a parts book?


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Related question - on a 5 speed, can the entire pushrod
be
replaced without removing the tranny?

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:50:33 -0700
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Consider also that the clutch pushrod seals could be
binding on the rod . . .

GF

 I'm pretty sure they are sintered bronze- at least
that's what mine
looked like.
A year later (3K miles?), it is finally starting to
make
 
 a slight
amount
of noise. I was under the impression that the
single-plates sound like
a tin cup full of angry nails, but mine has been
very,
 
 very quiet. I
think I'm finally wearing through some of the
lubricant
 
 (amsoil, heavy
trailer axle grease) that I put on the spline.
Before installing one, I read everything I could find
about these
clutches. They've been used mostly in LeMans or
outright racing type
applications where the rider is hard on the bike. The
earliest account
I found of wearing out the plate was around 5K miles
and
 
 this from a
guy
who rode a LeMans loaded up with a touring pack most
of
 
 the time.
There
are few reports -that I've found- of the RAM wearing
out. Bill, I
sincerely hope yours hasn't given up- that would
suggest
 
 bad things
about mine in the near future. Anyway- I was under
the
 
 impression that
when the disk wore out, the clutch would slip rather
than bind. So
perhaps some of Greg's suggestions about lubrication
is
 
 more likely?
J

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