Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive


Subject: RE: Maybe a clue as to why it won't run?

Author: Robert Hawkes

Date: Jan 9, 2005, 7:37 PM

Post ID: 1718180558



Ted, You loosened the "alternator a half-turn" or the distributor?? Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Ward [mailto:ju-@astrocomma.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 7:31 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: Maybe a clue as to why it won't run?

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Well, I finally got it to start and run. After putting in the timing chain
tensioner, I loosened the alternator and gave it a half turn (it was all the

way to one side) and choked it and held the gas open and cranked it and it
started right up.
My theory is that it was misstimed and that in conjunction with the loose
timing belt was enough. I still don't know why it ran fine up until that
point. I dropped the pan didn't find any loose rubber from the old chain
tensioner, my guess is it has been missing for awhile (The bike is new to
me) or else there is a big chunk hiding somewhere.

I'll put a drop of oil on the advance too just in case.

Thanks all

Ted Ward

----- Original Message -----
From: <lio-@aol.com>
.
...I had a similar problem with an old FIAT I had many years ago. After
much weeping and gnashing of teeth the problem was fixed with a drop of
Olive Oil on the distributor cam. The mechanical advance was sticking
and throwing the timing off to various degrees. Good Luck!!
...Vince in NY.....
.
.



Ted Ward wrote:
 
I replaced the condensor. The bike has fuel, I took off the bowl and it
was
full. I have also tried spraying starter fluid into the mouths of the
carbs
with no luck. I'll check the inside of the distributor and the coil
wire.
The coil wire could be the problem, I made it myself :( (crimped on the
end
anyway)

Thanks for the tips

Ted

----- Original Message -----
From: "Custom Guzzi" <paul-@comcast.net>

Ok, have you checked your connections on the coil? A loose connector
from
the coil to the distributor will cause the bike to start running
sluggish
and erratic like it's starving for fuel and then suddenly run fine and
back
to sluggish erratic running till it eventually dies and leaves you
scratching your head on the side of the road. Ask me how I found this
out!
Are you still using the stock fuel line cross-over? If so, check for a
blockage. Also check your petcocks to make sure their filters are not
blocked and which one is the reserve. The reason I say that is you
mentioned
that one cylinder quit. Check to make sure the springs in your
distributor
are still attached and that the weights are free to move and are not
gummed
up. Have you tried another condenser?

Paul
73 Eldo "Elvira"
74 Eldo "Daisy" undergoing a full police restoration


-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Ward [mailto:ju-@astrocomma.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 6:09 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: Maybe a clue as to why it won't run?


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I don't think this is it because it ran fine for a while (about 20
miles)
then it began to run sluggish and one cylinder quit and I let off the
gas
and it died and it hasn't started since. But it sure sounds like a
timing
issue. Is there something inside the distributor that could have come
loose
to cause a problem like this?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Custom Guzzi" <paul-@comcast.net>

Ted,

You could have your distributor 180 degrees out. Been there done that!
It
will crank and will almost fire, but will get sluggish when you try use
the
throttle.

Paul
73 Eldo "Elvira"
74 Eldo "Daisy" undergoing a full police restoration


-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Ward [mailto:ju-@astrocomma.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:32 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Maybe a clue as to why it won't run?


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I have a question about my eldo. When I hit the starter, it cranks
really
easily but if I pull the choke lever or twist the throttle while
cranking
it's like I just tripled the stress on the starter, the starter will bog
down and almost stop cranking. Is this normal?

Ted

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