Subject: Re: harpers electronic ignition
Author: Allan Johnson
Date: May 7, 2003, 3:29 PM
Post ID: 1712904837
Just received the ignition kit. It is exactly as shown on their web site.
The ignition module is a Pertronix. The kit also includes a flame thrower
coil of the same brand, plug wires, plug caps, boots, and a new distributer
cap. I will put it on Friday and tell my impression of it unless someone
beats me to it.
Allan
72 Eldorado
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie Mullendore" <Ambo-@netscape.net>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 5:29 PM
Subject: RE: harpers electronic ignition
Hi Jay,
I too used a Pertronix ignition, but in a '64 Land Rover 109 w/2.25 liter
four cylinder. Unlike your experience though, it made no discernible
difference in power, starting, or mileage. Like you said, it was cheap
enough that I didn't feel like the money was wasted. Wish I still had the
old Rover...
Charlie
Jay Williams <cj7-@hotmail.com> wrote:
Going to digress a bit from bikes and talk about cars for a moment, but itsto
relevant to the current discussion.
I've ben fooling around with old cars even longer than with bikes. I used
be a big fan of points, for all the usual reasons. (Simple, tried and true,I
I don't need no mysterious voodoo electronics to complicate things, etc.) I
always bought high quality points and kept them clean and gapped to spec.
The points set ups always seemed to work well for me, and I saw zero reason
to change.
Then, a good friend with a car quite similar to mine practically insisted I
try the new set-up he'd installed in his car, a little gizmo that fit under
the distributor cap and replaced the points called a Pertronix Ignitor.
To make a long story short, despite fresh, correctly gapped points in my
distributor, installing his Pertronix system with NO other changes made a
noticable difference. Not in power particularly,'though it certainly didn't
hurt in that regard, but the engine idled smoother, started easier and was
noticably more crisp through the rev range. I took his Pertronix out,
reinstalled and gapped the points and the difference was patently obvious.
ordered my own unit and have been using it ever since. Ultimately Ia
discovered that mileage had improved slightly. (Not that a '69 Cougar with
healthy 351 is a car for those particularly concerned about gas mileage.)
Anyhow, This isn't a commercial for Pertronix, that just happens to be the
points to electronic conversion I'm familiar with. And I'm certainly not
endorsing whatever Harper's is selling. The Pertronix unit for a V8 engine
cost about 1/5th of what Harper's is asking for their unit for a
two-cylinder bike, which does seem a little out of whack. The point I'm
trying to make is that the car ran and drove JUST FINE with the points. The
electronic ignition still made a positive difference.
Yes, I keep a set of points in the glove box, "just in case". But haven't
needed them yet in over ten years. Its all a matter of personal preference,
of course, but I'm another that will be curious to see how Allan's
experiment works out.
Jay Williams
From: jason telford <jr-@avalon.net>
Reply-To: Loopfram-@topica.com
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: RE: harpers electronic ignition
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 17:20:48 +0000
Oh, come on now. In the grand scheme of things, $300 isn't all that
much and if it makes life easier in the long run, then go for it.
Personally, I don't mind points. They seem to work fine for my needs,
but I don't particularly enjoy setting them. I'm going to stick with
them for now, but I am real curious how this experiment of Allan's turns
out.
Cheers,
Jason
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