Subject: RE: Clutch weirdness

Author: Kevin Graf

Date: Jun 29, 2005, 10:54 AM

Post ID: 1719093542

Just the opposite.


Well, the way I figured it was that the plates are under load or

tension all the time and at the rear of the pack, so, they are already
compressed, as you pull the clutch in, the clutch arm pushes on the
rod/pressure plate, this compressed the springs to their limit. The
longer springs I got from mg, well were longer which gave the springs
more travel to be able to disengage the plates all the way.. right?
right...:-)

Kev






-----Original Message-----
From: joe jump [mailto:jum-@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:33 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: RE: Clutch weirdness

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Gregs,
As I recalled, I used the same spacers that came

Junkyard (71 Ambo) to mount the 850T 5-speed into it's frame. I

my Eldo parts manual that I had previously downloaded from Moe's site

compared it to the 750 parts manual, 2nd edition at This Old Tractor.
Both parts manuals show the spacers as identical left & right, and

machines share the same part number 1242 9800.

Kev- don't quite follow how short clutch springs
wouldn't allow the clutch to disengage - sure you didn't mean springs
that were too long, coil bound, preventing disengagement? Wouldn't

springs apply less pressure to the clutch pack, allowing the clutch to

slip?


Joe in St Louis
850T-Powered Ambo
"Junkyard"

Greg Field wrote:

Sounds like someone used 4-speed spacers with this ELdo. More

wierdness.

On Wednesday, June 29, 2005, at 06:55 AM, Greg Bender wrote:

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Forgot to mention, if you need "official" measurements, I can take

the

bolt out tonight and let you know what they are. Just let me know.


Greg Bender wrote:

Ah ha! I originally thought you were referring to the alignment
spacers
that fit in the bellhousing so that the alignment of the
engine-transmission is not completely depending on the studs.

But now, I see that you are referring the aluminum spacers that

on

either side of the transmission, through which the large

transmission

mounting bolt is slid.

I just measured these on my Ambo with a 4 speed...still mounted,

they

are close, but not *perfect* measurements:

Right side = 42 mm
Left side = 57 mm

I don't know what they should be for an Eldo with a 5 speed, but

thought I'd toss these numbers out, anyway. Perhaps something got
switched at some point in the bike's life???


Greg Field wrote:

5. As long as the transmission and engine mate properly, I

suppose
there is anything wrong with the trans spacer being longer on

side
than the other...perhaps it just worked out of the aluminum

I figure the frame must be bent or something. Complicatd greatly

my

efforts to get the swingarm aligned with the tranny output.

Regards,

Greg Bender
1971 Ambassador
2000 Quota
http://www.thisoldtractor.com/gtbender

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Minnesota MGNOC website
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Regards,

Greg Bender
1971 Ambassador
2000 Quota
http://www.thisoldtractor.com/gtbender

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