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Subject: Re: Canada

Author: alacritas

Date: Jan 8, 2004, 6:47 PM

Post ID: 1715694896




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Hi Ranjan,

I have some general info and a url to a site on state laws that does
include info on Canada. I am still trying to get details on the waiver.
For those entering Canada or the US, the "agawacanyon" site below has
direct links to the updates on wait times at the different border
crossings for both US and Canada.

Most information I have gotten says that any alcool related charge make
it difficult for someone to get into Canada:

More information is obtained fromhttp://www.agawacanyon.com/border.html

Criminal records

Individuals with criminal records wishing to enter Canada can apply for
a waiver. This should be done a minimum of 3 - 4 weeks in advance of the
intended visit and can take up to 6 months. It should be noted that
Driving Under the Influence convictions are considered a criminal
offense in Canada Individuals with criminal records without waivers can
be refused entry. Contact the nearest port of entry Canada Immigration
office for more information. See contact information below.

Persons without waivers who have only DUI's or other less serious
criminal convictions and have no criminal convictions in the past 10
years may be considered rehabilitated when they reach the border but
this is at the Canada Immigration officer's discretion. A "Remote Area
Border Crossing Permit" may assist the Immigration officer in this
determining admissibility to Canada since it requires normal background
checks. This permit costs $30.�� Canadian (approx. $20.�� US). More
information regarding the "Remote Area Border Crossing Permit" is
available at www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/rabc.html.
<http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/rabc.html>



Visitors from USA

All visitors from outside Canada, except those from the United States,
Greenland, and St. Pierre and Miquelon, must present a valid passport to
enter the country. American citizens or permanent residents arriving
from the U.S.A. must provide proof of citizenship or residency upon
request. Proof of citizenship consists of a passport, original or
certified copy of your U.S. birth certificate, current voter's
registration card, U.S. military discharge papers, or certificate of
citizenship or naturalization. If you are a permanent resident of the
U.S.A., but not a U.S. citizen you must provide your 'green card' if
requested. Persons under 18 years traveling without their parents should
have a letter of authorization from a parent or guardian to travel into
Canada.

One web site with general info is the:


Customs Information for Visitors to Canada and Seasonal Resident

http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/E/pub/cp/rc4161/rc4161-e.html

General info re driving in Canada:

Driving and Traffic

* A valid driver's license from any country is good in Canada for
three months.
* If you are involved in a car accident resulting in a personal
injury or property damage over $700.00, you must notify the police
and remain at the scene of the accident until cleared by
investigating officers.
* After coming to a full stop, right turns may be made on red lights
unless otherwise indicated. Proceed with caution only if the way
is clear.
* Traffic travelling in both directions must stop for a yellow
school bus when its red lights are flashing and the stop arm is
extended..
* Speed limits in Canada are in kilometers per hour (km/h). Freeways
have a speed of 100 km/h, rural highways and county roads 80km/h,
urban and populated areas range from 40-60 km/h. Speed limits are
well posted.

State driving laws:
http://www.statedrivinglaw.com/
 From site:

Regarding NY drivers:


Out-of-State Traffic Violations:

Except for Ontario and Quebec, points are not added to your NYS driver
record if you commit an out-of-state traffic violation. Under New York
driving law, points can appear on your NYS driver record if you commit a
traffic violation in Ontario or Quebec.

*




ranjan wrote:

 Thanks Elisabeth,
If you could post how to get that "pardon certificate", I know that I would
be thankful, if not others on the list.
I have been checking into the Canadian consulate at Seattle for this same
info and what I found arre numerous forms and a ^ month minium waiting time.
Also a $150.00 non refundable filing fee (tourist tax??).
I have heard about a shorter form and interviesw tha ttakes place with an
appt. right at the border ncrossing but as yet have not seen anthing in
writing on this venue.

Any help would be much appreciated and rewarded. thanks

Randy Wilson
SE SoDak

----- Original Message -----
From: "alacritas" <ej-@sympatico.ca>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: Canada


 Hi all,

I will check what are the rules and post them on the list. I vaguely
remember

 hearing there is a certificate you can get to cancel old violations -
can't

 remember if it applies to getting into Canada or into the USA - I will
check

 into that too.

Toughest thing are the delays at the border - usually going into USA. Best
to

 avoid going through at peak hours.

I always find the customs officials are more interested in asking me
questions

 about my bike than searching through my things.

This sometimes works: if you get stopped for speeding in Canada and your
speedometer only shows miles - point to your speedometer and explain you
made

 a mistake converting the miles to kilometers. That may get you off with a
warning or a lesser ticket.

Cheers,

Elisabeth

ranjan wrote:

 Leon and list
Do all you guys have clean criminal records? At the No Dak and
Minnesota

 
 (Manitoba) checkpoints they turn away lots of people as "inadmissables"
..

 
 Accordingly if you have anything on your record that is a felony in
canada

 
 they won't let you in. DWI/DUI, certain reckless driving charges,
speeding

 
 (20mph or more), simple assault, any domestic issues even if it was'nt
your

 
 fault, and all kinds of other things. Most of these type charges are
misdemeanors in the states, but felonies in Canada..
It seems they start with license plate to find out who owns the vehicle
and

 
 it goes from there. This has been the norm for about 4 yrs.

maybe they are rmad about SoDak prohibiting truckers from hauling
canadian

 
 beef thru So Dak.

Either I'm really bad, or other checkpoints are a lot slacker.

Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leon Karlak" <leon_k-@yahoo.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: Canada

 I second Joe's recomendaton. I go into Canada once or
twice a week (three times this week - Toronto
Motorcycle Show is on). The Canadans never give you
any trouble, unlike the people who work for me. Just
have some form of government issued photo
identificaton if you are a citizen of one of the
several states in the U.S.A.
--- Joe Casey <joe_c-@msn.com> wrote:

 been to the canada rally twice. never had a problem.
this past rally we crossed the borders with 4
guzzi's ,one was pulling a pop up trailer. not one
of us had a problem. guzzi's in utopia is an awesome
rally site with great food and plenty of space.
contact phil turnbridge ontario mgnoc rep. I believe
he also has a website for the rally. check you're
newsletter for phil's e-mail happy new year
joe
----- Original Message -----
From: John Prusnek
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 8:39 AM
Subject: Canada


Be prepared to have all of your shit gone through
with a fine tooth
comb; I've heard from several people that going
into Canada on a bike is
an experience they won't repeat.

John Prusnek

 Good question, anyone know?

Custom Guzzi wrote:
What are the requirements for travel into Canada?

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Hi Ranjan,<br>
<br>
I have some general info and a url to a site on state laws that does include
info on Canada. I am still trying to get details on the waiver. For those
entering Canada or the US, the "agawacanyon" site below has direct links
to the updates on wait times at the different border crossings for both US
and Canada.<br>
<br>
Most information I have gotten says that any alcool related charge make it
difficult for someone to get into Canada:
<p align="Left"></p>
More information is obtained from <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.agawacanyon.com/border.html">http://www.agawacanyon.com/border.html</a>
<br>
<p><b><u><font size="+1">Criminal records</font></u></b></p>
<p><b><font size="+1">Individuals with criminal records wishing to
enter Canada can apply for a waiver. This should be done a minimum
of 3 - 4 weeks in advance of the intended visit and can take up to
6 months. It should be noted that Driving Under the Influence convictions
are considered a criminal offense in Canada Individuals with criminal
records without waivers can be refused entry. Contact the nearest port
of entry Canada Immigration office for more information. See contact
information below.</font></b></p>
<p><b><font size="+1">Persons without waivers who have only DUI's or
other less serious criminal convictions and have no criminal convictions
in the past 10 years may be considered rehabilitated when they reach
the border but this is at the Canada Immigration officer's discretion.
A "Remote Area Border Crossing Permit" may assist the Immigration officer
in this determining admissibility to Canada since it requires normal
background checks. This permit costs $30.&ordm;&ordm; Canadian (approx. $20.&ordm;&ordm;
US). More information regarding the "Remote Area Border Crossing
Permit" is available at <a href="http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/rabc.html">
www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/rabc.html.</a>
</font></b></p>
<br>
<br>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><b>Visitors from USA</b></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">All visitors from outside
Canada, except those from the United States, Greenland,
and St. Pierre and Miquelon, must present a valid passport
to enter the country. American citizens or permanent residents
arriving from the U.S.A. must provide proof of citizenship
or residency upon request. Proof of citizenship consists
of a passport, original or certified copy of your U.S.
birth certificate, current voter's registration card,
U.S. military discharge papers, or certificate of citizenship
or naturalization. If you are a permanent resident of
the U.S.A., but not a U.S. citizen you must provide your
'green card' if requested. Persons under 18 years traveling
without their parents should have a letter of authorization
from a parent or guardian to travel into Canada. </font></p>
One web site with general info is the:
<h1><small><small><small>Customs Information for Visitors to Canada and Seasonal
Resident</small></small></small></h1>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/E/pub/cp/rc4161/rc4161-e.html">http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/E/pub/cp/rc4161/rc4161-e.html</a><br>
<br>
General info re driving in Canada:<br>
<br>
<font size="2" face="Arial"><strong>Driving and Traffic</strong></font>
<ul>
<li><font size="2" face="Arial">A valid driver's license from any country
is good in Canada for three months. </font></li>
<li><font size="2" face="Arial">If you are involved in a car accident resulting
in a personal injury or property damage over $700.00, you must notify
the police and remain at the scene of the accident until cleared by
investigating officers. </font></li>
<li><font size="2" face="Arial">After coming to a full stop, right turns
may be made on red lights unless otherwise indicated. Proceed with
caution only if the way is clear. </font></li>
<li><font size="2" face="Arial">Traffic travelling in both directions must
stop for a yellow school bus when its red lights are flashing and
the stop arm is extended.. </font></li>
<li><font size="2" face="Arial">Speed limits in Canada are in kilometers
per hour (km/h). Freeways have a speed of 100 km/h, rural highways
and county roads 80km/h, urban and populated areas range from 40-60
km/h. Speed limits are well posted.</font></li>
</ul>
State driving laws:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.statedrivinglaw.com/">http://www.statedrivinglaw.com/</a>
<br>
 From site:<br>
<br>
Regarding NY drivers:<br>
<h4>Out-of-State Traffic Violations:</h4>
<p>Except for Ontario and Quebec, points are not added to your NYS driver
record if you commit an out-of-state traffic violation. Under New York
driving law, points can appear on your NYS driver record if you commit a traffic
violation in Ontario or Quebec.</p>
<ul>
<li><br>
</li>
</ul>
<br>
<br>
ranjan wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:1611535143-14637-@boing.topica.com">
<pre wrap="">Thanks Elisabeth,<br>If you could post how to get that "pardon certificate", I know that I would<br>be thankful, if not others on the list.<br>I have been checking into the Canadian consulate at Seattle for this same<br>info and what I found arre numerous forms and a ^ month minium waiting time.<br>Also a $150.00 non refundable filing fee (tourist tax??).<br>I have heard about a shorter form and interviesw tha ttakes place with an<br>appt. right at the border ncrossing but as yet have not seen anthing in<br>writing on this venue.<br><br>Any help would be much appreciated and rewarded. thanks<br><br>Randy Wilson<br>SE SoDak<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "alacritas" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ej-@sympatico.ca"><ej-@sympatico.ca></a><br>To: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Loopfram-@topica.com"><Loopfram-@topica.com></a><br>Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 2:07 PM<br>Subject: Re: Canada<br><b
r><br></pre>
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<pre wrap="">Hi all,<br><br>I will check what are the rules and post them on the list. I vaguely<br></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->remember<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">hearing there is a certificate you can get to cancel old violations -<br></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->can't<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">remember if it applies to getting into Canada or into the USA - I will<br></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->check<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">into that too.<br><br>Toughest thing are the delays at the border - usually going into USA. Best<br></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->to<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">avoid going through at peak hours.<br><br>I always find the customs officials are more interested in asking me<br></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->questions<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">about my bike than searching through my things.<br><br>This sometimes works: if you get stopped for speeding in Canada and your<br>speedometer only shows miles - point to your speedometer and explain you<br></pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->made<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">a mistake converting the miles to kilometers. That may get you off with a<br>warning or a lesser ticket.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Elisabeth<br><br>ranjan wrote:<br><br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Leon and list<br>Do all you guys have clean criminal records? At the No Dak and<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->Minnesota<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">(Manitoba) checkpoints they turn away lots of people as "inadmissables"<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->..<br></pre>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Accordingly if you have anything on your record that is a felony in<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->canada<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">they won't let you in. DWI/DUI, certain reckless driving charges,<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->speeding<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">(20mph or more), simple assault, any domestic issues even if it was'nt<br></pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->your<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">fault, and all kinds of other things. Most of these type charges are<br>misdemeanors in the states, but felonies in Canada..<br>It seems they start with license plate to find out who owns the vehicle<br></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><!---->and<br></pre>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">it goes from there. This has been the norm for about 4 yrs.<br><br>maybe they are rmad about SoDak prohibiting truckers from hauling<br></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><!---->canadian<br></pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">beef thru So Dak.<br><br>Either I'm really bad, or other checkpoints are a lot slacker.<br><br>Randy<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Leon Karlak" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:leon_k-@yahoo.com"><leon_k-@yahoo.com></a><br>To: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Loopfram-@topica.com"><Loopfram-@topica.com></a><br>Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 10:53 AM<br>Subject: Re: Canada<br><br></pre>
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<pre wrap="">I second Joe's recomendaton. I go into Canada once or<br>twice a week (three times this week - Toronto<br>Motorcycle Show is on). The Canadans never give you<br>any trouble, unlike the people who work for me. Just<br>have some form of government issued photo<br>identificaton if you are a citizen of one of the<br>several states in the U.S.A.<br>--- Joe Casey <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:joe_c-@msn.com"><joe_c-@msn.com></a> wrote:<br></pre>
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<pre wrap="">been to the canada rally twice. never had a problem.<br>this past rally we crossed the borders with 4<br>guzzi's ,one was pulling a pop up trailer. not one<br>of us had a problem. guzzi's in utopia is an awesome<br>rally site with great food and plenty of space.<br>contact phil turnbridge ontario mgnoc rep. I believe<br>he also has a website for the rally. check you're<br>newsletter for phil's e-mail happy new year<br> joe<br> ----- Original Message -----<br> From: John Prusnek<br> To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Loopfram-@topica.com">Loopfram-@topica.com</a><br> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 8:39 AM<br> Subject: Canada<br><br><br> Be prepared to have all of your shit gone through<br>with a fine tooth<br> comb; I've heard from several people that going<br>into Canada on a bike is<br> an experience they won't repeat.<br><br> John Prusnek<br><br> >Good question
, anyone know?<br> ><br> >Custom Guzzi wrote:<br> >What are the requirements for travel into Canada?<br> ><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><br>__________________________________<br>Do you Yahoo!?<br>Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003<br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://search.yahoo.com/top2003">http://search.yahoo.com/top2003</a><br><br><br></pre>
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