Subject: Re: Convert Questions
Author: Darrell J Dick
Date: Feb 18, 2004, 10:37 AM
Post ID: 1716078366
I don't know the specs on the stock pump. I guess the purpose of the pump
is only to circulate fluid through the system for cooling, right? I
suppose we could do some testing. I looked in the McMaster-Carr catalog
today. They have a gear type pump with Delrin gears and a 12VDC motor for
about $47.00 I'm not sure how a fuel pump would work, but this gear pump
would probably work good on ATF. Rated for 13 fl. oz./min 20 PSI or 63
fl. oz./min @10PSI on 200 CPS fluids. Max temp 200 degF. 1.6 amp draw.
For guys that maybe aren't familiar with McMaster-Carr, they are a huge
industrial supply house. Probably every manufacturing plant in the US has
at least one of their big yellow catalogs in the maintenance or
engineering office. They have a great web site too
http://www.mcmaster.com. I buy lots of MC stuff from them too. Loopframe
tool box locks, vibration mounts, various hardware, fateners of all
types. Order online and they ship it fast!
Darrell Dick
Imlay City, MI
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:06:40 -0500 greg barratt
<gr-@tonedeaftouring.com> writes:
but what flow rate is the stock pump putting out? can't be much..
1 amp, seems like a big draw on the convert's electrical system...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Giller" <bgil-@mitre.org>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: Convert QuestionsSolid state Facet fuel pumps are rated at about 1 amp on a 12voltsystem (www.pegasusautoracing.com) for race cars. The lowest flowrate15 gal/hr @ 1 psi with a maximum fuel pressure of 2.4 psi - 4.5psi.would
Bruce
greg barratt wrote:
it looked like an electric fuel pump..though i wouldn't think it
havethe bestto flow very much..he mounted it near the battery somewhere to
of3"diameter..ifmy recollection...it was a cylinder type one - maybe 6" long,be alli could find a really low voltage draw pump that would work, i'd
overtheit....
From: "Darrell Dick" <ddic-@juno.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: Convert QuestionsI think I've heard about that bike. He's using the pump so
generatorchest cover.is in the stock location and he has a stock looper timingusing?Interesting idea. Greg, do you know what kind of pump he isfabbed
Darrell Dick
Imlay City, MI
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:32:43 -0500 greg barratt
<gr-@tonedeaftouring.com> writes:i saw an ambassador vert setup at the ohio rally which had ajust likeup tank
and an electric pump. vert tranny, ambo motor. tank wasbuildinga
chopper oil tank...
i'd like to put an electric pump on a vert project i'mthe one(pump is
missing from timing cover...) anyone done this yet?
i have 2 verts with the lighter flywheel (one of which ishaven't usedi'm
building above..), i have a spare heavy flywheel, buthad ait..
they say the lightweight flywheel is unreliable, i haven'tvert..problem
yet. but then again i only have maybe 10,000 miles on themore..
there is a yahoo group for verts, that someone may knowsubject,(mgconvert)
is the group..
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darrell Dick" <ddic-@juno.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: Convert QuestionsHi Mike,
Well, I certainly don't consider myself an expert on theputting somebut Ihave worked on a couple of 'Verts. Hopefully, I'll bebrokenmileson mine when the weather turns. I fixed one that had amilesflywheel acouple of years back. I believe that bike had about 40,000miles onon it,and it had a sidecar attached. My current bike has 26,000I'mit andit still has the original sheetmetal flywheel. The pointintrying tomake is, I think they can last a long time. I know Dave R.engine/trannyGuzziologysays he thinks it may have something to do withcomment onalignment.
I have never ridden one with heavier wheel, so I can'tthehow itaffects the performance. I'd say your choices are:
1. Go with the sheetmetal flywheel and know that you haveif youbestperforming set-up, but you may have to get in there againwouldn'tput alot of miles on (and you might get stranded somewhere. Iabout itwant tohave to change a flywheel along side the road).
2. Put the machined flywheel on and never have to worrywould bebreaking, but you'll always wonder how much quicker itit if itwith thelighter one.
It really depends how much it would bother you to changeI don'tdidbreak. I'm not changing mine until it breaks.
I don't see why you couldn't build your own ATF reservoir.probablyknowif there are baffles in there or not. I'd saay you couldthoughtmodifya chopper oil tank.<eldo-@netzero.net>
Good Luck!
Darrell Dick
Imlay City, MI
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 07:00:22 -0600 EldoMikewrites:
>I asked these questions on the Convert Yahoo List butthough,I'd ask>here
also since that group is still kinda small...good groupConverts(http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/MGconvert/)so>join if
you're intothinking of>
Anyway, here are my questions....
1. I have a perfect earlier/light flywheel that I'mquicker>using on
my Convert Custom...Guzzilogy says that the bikes areflywheels?with>the light wheel...also more fragile...anybody else haveexperience>with both the heavy(which I also have)and the lightthan aMy>project will probably weigh a couple hundred lbs lesshave tostock>Convert...
2. Any reason I can't build a custom tranny fluid
tank for my Custom...would the quantity that it holdsbe>the
same or could it hold more tranny fld?
EldoMike
http://www.classicguzzi.com/id103.htm