Subject: RE: exhaust probs

Author: Zerhackermann

Date: Jul 26, 2002, 12:45 PM

Post ID: 1710677620


Hook wrench from harbor freight does the trick. And smallenough to fit
in the side toolbox.

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Cooke [mailto:cook-@virgin.net]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 11:00 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: exhaust probs


Britool adjustable "C" spanner, er wrench (keep forgetting where i am).

very useful tool.

cookie


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Graf" <kgr-@midwestpension.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 6:37 PM
Subject: RE: exhaust probs


You got a spanner that will fit that? I got a fork adj. tool by V-Twin
that
works good. Just a bit big, takes up alot of room in the tool kit.

Kev

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Cooke [mailto:cook-@virgin.net]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 12:51 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: exhaust probs


I have lockwired original manifold nuts with stainless wire in the
past,
and
the sods still moved. maybe that's a reflection of my lockwiring
ability, dunno? seemed ok when i did it.

never had aftermarket nut with lockring move. important to use a
proper wrench on them though, don't just belt them with a hammer &
screwdriver. urgh!

cookie


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Graf" <kgr-@midwestpension.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 5:03 PM
Subject: RE: exhaust probs


Yeah, I've thought about that in the past and I'm just being a wimp
about
it
but I don't really want to drill the heads for something that might
not improve the situation. But I'm still tossing it around in the
'ol noggin
and
mybe when the project bike is done I'll screw around with it. Kev

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Linn [mailto:paul-@attbi.com]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 11:11 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: exhaust probs


Why don't you try and add a lock wire to the whole exhaust nut lock
ring combo. Would certainly help to prevent it from moving then.

Paul
Richmond, Va
73 Eldo custom project
76 T3 basket
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Graf" <kgr-@midwestpension.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 10:12 AM
Subject: RE: exhaust probs


Well, I think at one point we came to the conclusion that it would
helps
seal, reduce vibration through the threads and make up for wore
threads
to
a
certain extent, and helps the nut stay put a bit longer. My
locking exhaust nuts still come loose. Even though the lock nut is
tight,
the actual exhaust nut backs it's way out a hair enough for the
engine vibration to waste the gasket. The only real way to tell
this is by loosening the locknut. Then I can clearly see that the
exhaust nut
decided
to run away again. It's weird, I know, but I have been careful to
notice
if
the exhaust nut comes loose with the lock nut while I'm loosening
it
and
it
doesn't. It does it all on it's own. I probably got some real wore
threads.
I would suggest you try loosening the locknut to see where the
exhaust
nut
is at, if you haven't already...

Kev

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Cooke [mailto:cook-@virgin.net]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 9:18 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: exhaust probs


what's the RTV supposed to do?

cookie

ps i got the locking nuts on my own bike & i never have to touch
them
or
the
gaskets.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Graf" <kgr-@midwestpension.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: exhaust probs


If you got the frame clamps and the locking nuts(I got 'em too
but
I'm
not
quit sure if they were worth the $$)You can try some hi-temp RTV

on
the
threads (tip from the list!). The combination of these three
things
seem
to
make my gaskets last a bit longer.

Kev

-----Original Message-----
From: EldoMike [mailto:msse-@classicguzzi.com]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 7:43 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: exhaust probs


Has it got the frame to exhaust pipe clamps?

Mike
www.classicguzzi.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Cooke" <cook-@virgin.net>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 3:19 AM
Subject: exhaust probs


to whoever wrote this (i've lost track):

"cookie I always thought exhaust if it pops letting off the
throttle
and
intake air leak if it popped getting on the throtle? B."

an air leak at the exhaust manifold will pop on the over run.
an
air

leak
on
the intake will just make it run weak in my experience.

now if anyone knows how to stop an eldo getting a loose joint
at
the
head/downpipe i'd like to know. got a friends bike doing this
all
the
time.
NOT the nut coming loose (it's the locknut type), it just eats

the
gasket
after a few miles, air gets in, backfires like crazy. i put
new
gaskets
in
&
it's fine for a while, then same thing.

it started happening when new mufflers were fitted with rear
balance
pipe
removed. i think it may be to do with the pipes moving &
flattening
off
the
gaskets. however the exhaust assy doesn't appear to be moving
any
more
than
stock.

i must have put 6 sets of ex gaskets in that bike & i'm
getting
fed
up
now.

cookie


----- Original Message -----
From: "E. C. Bud Durdle" <bu-@olympus.net>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: Digest for Loopfram-@topica.com, issue 861


On Wednesday 24 July 2002 10:16 pm, you wrote:
I heard a little while ago that the popping could be from
looseness
at
the
head/exhaust header joint, or somewhere close to that. Check

to
make
sure
the exhaust is tight up there, and/or has no leaks.

>I am working on a 74 Eldo I just picked up with Amal
Carbs.
When
I
let
off the throttle and am gearing down
it pops through the mufflers. I have played with the air
screws
and
it
has
gotten better, but it is still
there. I have checked the carb intake gaskets and they are
fine.
Someone
told me
this is a common problem with running amals on a Guzzi. Any
ideas



Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:05:15 +0100
From: "Martin Cooke" <mjco-@nildram.co.uk>
Subject: Re: carb & air filter question


almost certainly an air leak as matt has said

cookie

cookie I always thought exhaust if it pops letting off the
throttle
and
intake air leak if it popped getting on the throtle? B.

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