Subject: RE: exhaust probs

Author: Fred Sahms

Date: Jul 26, 2002, 5:39 PM

Post ID: 1710679206

I saw a pair of those on a '74 DB Eldo at VMD . They looked like they
were in good shape . I wonder if it was something MG used on the Disc
brake models ???
Karl Kologiski wrote:

I just picked up a 74 Eldo that had a aftermarket accessory on it. It
was
a finned exhaust clamp similar to the ones on the old brit bikes but the


inside was turned out so the stock guzz exhaust nut wound fit inside it
half way while the other half was tightened around the exhaust pipe.
Neat
Idea, to bad the fins were broken off of it.

Karl and Jane Kologiski
MGNOC Central Florida Reps
Bird at The Wheel, Motorcycle Arts
St. Petersburg Florida

Visit our Website athttp://home1.gte.net/janemac/bird.html


-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Cooke [SMTP:cook-@virgin.net]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 12:51 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: exhaust probs

I have lockwired original manifold nuts with stainless wire in the past,


and
the sods still moved. maybe that's a reflection of my lockwiring
ability,
dunno? seemed ok when i did it.

never had aftermarket nut with lockring move. important to use a proper
wrench on them though, don't just belt them with a hammer & screwdriver.
urgh!

cookie


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Graf" <kgr-@midwestpension.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 5:03 PM
Subject: RE: exhaust probs

Yeah, I've thought about that in the past and I'm just being a wimp
about

it

but I don't really want to drill the heads for something that might not
improve the situation. But I'm still tossing it around in the 'ol noggin

and

mybe when the project bike is done I'll screw around with it.
Kev

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Linn [mailto:paul-@attbi.com]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 11:11 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: exhaust probs


Why don't you try and add a lock wire to the whole exhaust nut lock ring
combo. Would certainly help to prevent it from moving then.

Paul
Richmond, Va
73 Eldo custom project
76 T3 basket
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Graf" <kgr-@midwestpension.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 10:12 AM
Subject: RE: exhaust probs

Well, I think at one point we came to the conclusion that it would

helps

seal, reduce vibration through the threads and make up for wore threads

to

a

certain extent, and helps the nut stay put a bit longer.
My locking exhaust nuts still come loose. Even though the lock nut is

tight,

the actual exhaust nut backs it's way out a hair enough for the engine
vibration to waste the gasket. The only real way to tell this is by
loosening the locknut. Then I can clearly see that the exhaust nut

decided

to run away again. It's weird, I know, but I have been careful to

notice

if

the exhaust nut comes loose with the lock nut while I'm loosening it

and

it

doesn't. It does it all on it's own. I probably got some real wore

threads.

I would suggest you try loosening the locknut to see where the exhaust

nut

is at, if you haven't already...

Kev

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Cooke [mailto:cook-@virgin.net]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 9:18 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: exhaust probs


what's the RTV supposed to do?

cookie

ps i got the locking nuts on my own bike & i never have to touch them

or

the

gaskets.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Graf" <kgr-@midwestpension.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: exhaust probs

If you got the frame clamps and the locking nuts(I got 'em too but

I'm

not

quit sure if they were worth the $$)You can try some hi-temp RTV on

the

threads (tip from the list!). The combination of these three things

seem

to

make my gaskets last a bit longer.

Kev

-----Original Message-----
From: EldoMike [mailto:msse-@classicguzzi.com]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 7:43 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: exhaust probs


Has it got the frame to exhaust pipe clamps?

Mike
www.classicguzzi.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Cooke" <cook-@virgin.net>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 3:19 AM
Subject: exhaust probs

to whoever wrote this (i've lost track):

"cookie I always thought exhaust if it pops letting off the

throttle

and

intake air leak if it popped getting on the throtle? B."

an air leak at the exhaust manifold will pop on the over run. an

air

leak

on

the intake will just make it run weak in my experience.

now if anyone knows how to stop an eldo getting a loose joint at

the

head/downpipe i'd like to know. got a friends bike doing this all

the

time.

NOT the nut coming loose (it's the locknut type), it just eats the

gasket

after a few miles, air gets in, backfires like crazy. i put new

gaskets

in

&

it's fine for a while, then same thing.

it started happening when new mufflers were fitted with rear

balance

pipe

removed. i think it may be to do with the pipes moving & flattening

off

the

gaskets. however the exhaust assy doesn't appear to be moving any

more

than

stock.

i must have put 6 sets of ex gaskets in that bike & i'm getting fed

up

now.

cookie


----- Original Message -----
From: "E. C. Bud Durdle" <bu-@olympus.net>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: Digest for Loopfram-@topica.com, issue 861


On Wednesday 24 July 2002 10:16 pm, you wrote:
>I heard a little while ago that the popping could be from

looseness

at

the

>head/exhaust header joint, or somewhere close to that. Check to

make

sure

>the exhaust is tight up there, and/or has no leaks.

> I am working on a 74 Eldo I just picked up with Amal Carbs.

When
I

let

off the throttle and am gearing down
it pops through the mufflers. I have played with the air screws and

it

has

gotten better, but it is still
>there. I have checked the carb intake gaskets and they are fine.

Someone

told me
this is a common problem with running amals on a Guzzi. Any ideas


>
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:05:15 +0100
From: "Martin Cooke" <mjco-@nildram.co.uk>
Subject: Re: carb & air filter question


almost certainly an air leak as matt has said

cookie

cookie I always thought exhaust if it pops letting off the throttle

and

intake air leak if it popped getting on the throtle? B.

Is that the Single malt talking or just another CHEAP WHINE ?