Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive


Subject: Re: exhaust probs

Author: Martin Cooke

Date: Jul 27, 2002, 3:13 AM

Post ID: 1710680788


hmmmm....

must admit i'm sceptical about exactly how much pressure the lock ring takes
from the gasket. works fine on my bike.

might give it a go.

cookie


----- Original Message -----
From: <murp-@aol.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 5:18 AM
Subject: RE: exhaust probs


 Jesse,
A couple of weeks ago I went to a tool distributor and had quite a
hard time describing a hook wrench, but ended up getting one. I can't
imagine what would happen if I went in there and asked for a
"castellated wrench which drives on the TANGENT". Could you tell me how
large this is (and maybe what it looks like), how much one costs, and
where one could get something like this.
Thanks,
Brian
'74 Eldo
'78 T3
'76 T3 basket

 
 
 

First GET RID OF THE LOCKNUT ! It only pulls the gland nut AWAY from
the gasket ring and DECREASES the pressure you are relying on to seal
the joint. They MAY work OK if you have little wear on the threads but
you are far better off to PROPERLY tighten the gland nut WITHOUT the
lock ring. The original chrome plated brass gland nuts were very easy
on
 
 
 the aluminum threads and also had a higher coefficient of thermal
expansion which actually caused them to hold better when hot.
A properly tightened nut will hold until you WANT to take it apart.
Most of the problems come from people afraid to tighten them fully for
fear of stripping the threads. A little high temp PERMATEX ANTI SIEZE
and a LOT of ttorque with the PROPER tool are required ! Pipe
wrenches
 
 
 , spanner wrenches ,hammer and punch , basin wrenches etc. are NOT the
proper tool. A castellated wrench that drive on the TANGENT is the
best
 
 
 way . The others tend to distort the tubular gland nut long before the
proper torque is achieved. They may work now and then but to be sure
the
 
 
 good tool is a must.
If you don't have access to the right tool ,email me and you may
borrow mine. IT WILL WORK !! :-) Martin Cooke wrote:
 to whoever wrote this (i've lost track):

"cookie I always thought exhaust if it pops letting off the throttle
and intake air leak if it popped getting on the throtle? B."

an air leak at the exhaust manifold will pop on the over run. an air
leak on the intake will just make it run weak in my experience.

now if anyone knows how to stop an eldo getting a loose joint at the
head/downpipe i'd like to know. got a friends bike doing this all
the
 
 
 
 time. NOT the nut coming loose (it's the locknut type), it just eats
the gasket
after a few miles, air gets in, backfires like crazy. i put new
gaskets
 in &
it's fine for a while, then same thing.

it started happening when new mufflers were fitted with rear balance
pipe removed. i think it may be to do with the pipes moving &
flattening off the
gaskets. however the exhaust assy doesn't appear to be moving any
more
 
 
 
 than
stock.

i must have put 6 sets of ex gaskets in that bike & i'm getting fed
up
 
 
 
 now.

cookie


----- Original Message -----
From: "E. C. Bud Durdle" <bu-@olympus.net>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: Digest for Loopfram-@topica.com, issue 861


On Wednesday 24 July 2002 10:16 pm, you wrote:
 I heard a little while ago that the popping could be from
looseness
 
 
 
 
 at the head/exhaust header joint, or somewhere close to that.
Check
 
 
 
 
 to make sure
the exhaust is tight up there, and/or has no leaks.

 I am working on a 74 Eldo I just picked up with Amal Carbs. When
I
 
 
 
 
 
 let
off the throttle and am gearing down
it pops through the mufflers. I have played with the air screws and
it
 
 
 
 has gotten better, but it is still
 there. I have checked the carb intake gaskets and they are fine.
Someone
told me
this is a common problem with running amals on a Guzzi. Any ideas


 
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:05:15 +0100
From: "Martin Cooke" <mjco-@nildram.co.uk>
Subject: Re: carb & air filter question


almost certainly an air leak as matt has said

cookie

cookie I always thought exhaust if it pops letting off the throttle
and intake air leak if it popped getting on the throtle? B.



1972 Eldo Cop
1974 Eldo 4LS Civvie
Looking for 1974 Ducati 750 Sport, 1984 Ducati 900 SS



1972 Eldo Cop
1974 Eldo 4LS Civvie
Looking for 1974 Ducati 750 Sport, 1984 Ducati 900 SS

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